OMF Export - 24 bit

Our shop primarily shoots HDV & DVCPRO HD which both record audio in 16 bit so when the footage is brought into FCP it is 16 bit. We usually send most of our projects to Pro Tools for audio finishing and then they are delivered via streaming video and/or DVD.
Is there any value to exporting the OMF file as 24 bit over 16 bit? Does it add any value to the finished product?

My thinking is this. If you were not coming back into fcp for finishing, there MIGHT be some advantage in working in a higher bitrate: you won't gain anything by transcoding, but the higher bitrate may allow you some lattitude in ProTools. But once you come back into FCP at 16, there it all goes. And you'll actually weaken the integrity of the file by transcoding it twice.
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I tried an extremely small project (one region, one track).
Always the same error. Problem is there's absolutely no information on what kind of internal error this is.
All other export options (AFF, Open TL and Final Cut) works.
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I suppose that beside CCM 4.1(2) you are using AC 1.4 (1), if yes, then you need to upgrade to AC 1.4 (1) ES11 or upgrade at least to CCM 4.1(3)ES42 or CCM 4.1(3) sr3c
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'OMF export failed due to internal error' message

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Has anyone ever got an 'OMF export failed due to internal error' message when trying to export in OMF format?
I get that every time I try to export in that format.
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Hello sj holcombe,
And welcome to Apple Discussions!
Have you had a chance to check out this Apple support document directly related to this issue? If not, it is a good place to start.
[iTunes displays a -69 error when syncing iPod|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1210]
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Hello All,
Does CS6 not like exporting an OMF when I have a multitrack audio file? It hangs during OMF export (separate files) and never finishes.
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- Ryan

Hey TacoRye,
I posted about this like a month ago and got no response. It has made my life hell on this job I'm doing. What happens is when you make the OMF PP is taking the entire audio track that is attached to every clip in your video instead of pairing it down with handles so the OMF is huge. Apparently OMF's can't be over 2 gigs with media embedded. The only work around is to render and replace but then your audio engineer doesn't have handles. (You'd think they'd at least give you handle options on render and replace.) I never ever would have started this edit of 10 different videos using the multi track functions in premiere as they obviously haven't thought through the work flow. You can't even match your audio back to original source to try and replace just the audio portions of clips in your timeline. Absolutely pathetic.
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I have had the same and other problems with OMF export ... I wish Adobe would get this working or provide better documentation on the problems. I also wish they would add a way to export CS5 audio tracks to their excellent application Audition 3 which I would rather use than Pro Tools anyway!
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Hi Durin
Actually no it wasn't working on 5.0 either, I tried installing the update patch in the hope it would fix it. Thanks for all your help with this.
Cheers Ben
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:13:37 -0600
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Thanks, Ben. I found the report and am sending a bug report up the chain now. To clarify, this worked fine before you installed the update patch, correct?
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Syncing Audio with Merge Clips option and OMF export question/issue

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In the past when I've edited video, when it came to syncing audio I always did it manually. This time, using Premiere Pro CC, I used the merge clips option, to speed up the syncing audio process, which was a huge time saver with excellent results.
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Hi, first post ...
Been using logic pro for about a year, so excuse me if this is redundant. I did a search and couldn't come up with all the answers I needed (this place via search has helped many times) I am exporting a project I did in Logic pro 7 to OMF for someone else to mix in P.T. Am I correct in assuming I first need to bounce all midi files to audio and reinsert them in the project via aif into audio tracks?
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Forget the OMF deal...
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