Omf from fcp to pro tools

Hello there,
Just finished offline of a feature film and done also the premix on FCP 5.0.4
now I will export it as OMF to work at OMNIMIX. They say pro tools won't recognise the sound clips as individual clips but as whole tracks instead.
Is this correct? and while mixing, using an omf file causes decrease in the quality of the sound.
The sound was recorded live on location to a Fostex pd6 dvd. All the sound is copied to the HD.
Thanks in advance...
hande
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi hande,
now I will export it as OMF to work at OMNIMIX. They
say pro tools won't recognise the sound clips as
individual clips but as whole tracks instead.
Is this correct?
No. Audio clips from FCP import as seperate audio regions in Protools, at the correct timecode locations.
and while mixing, using an omf file
causes decrease in the quality of the sound.
As Michael said, there is no quality loss. How could there be? It references/copies from, the same media files.
I agree that you may want to look elsewhere for this service. Mixing and mastering audio for video is my most commonly provided service, I can tell you with confidence that It sounds like your folks at Omnimix have never done this before.
Also, if you've done a reference mix in FCP, render that to an mp3 or something and send it along with. Can't hurt.
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