On "JavaTM Technology: Freedom of Choice"

Has anyone else wondered what this means?
http://java.sun.com/features/2001/08/choiceletter.html?frontpage-headlinesfeatures
The first two paragraphs are OK but then I fail to understand anymore.
"Demand that Microsoft include the Java platform in their XP operating system."
What on earth does that mean??? Can M$ legally use the new Java2 products, like swing and collections?
quote from http://java.sun.com/lawsuit/:
"To protect developers and consumers using Microsoft's outdated version of Java technology, Sun has agreed to grant Microsoft a limited license to continue to distribute its current version of the software, provided that all future versions of such products pass Sun's compatibility tests. This part of the agreement lasts seven years. Beyond that date, Microsoft can not distribute Java technology or use any of Sun's intellectual property."
So.... Why would the users and we, the developers, want M$ to keep supporting Java? If I understand correctly that quote above M$ supporting Java is the last thing we want!
What is the motivation of that letter, then?
Also the thing about opennes... When will there be a proper jdk written for BSD systems? Why is it taking so long? I am sure that if the JDK was really open under a GPL style license many developers would be happy to work on porting it to those systems - for free.

The purpose is to make the entire issue appear to be Microsoft's fault (the old "pile on" syndrome). Microsoft is under the gun, so everyone feels free to blame everything on Microsoft.
There is plenty of blame to go around here, on both sides. Microsoft attempted to "pollute" Java by optimizing it for the Windows platform, but in the process ran afoul of Sun's licensing restrictions. As a result, Sun sued and won. Under the terms of the suit, Microsoft can (not MUST, but CAN) continue to distribute it's version of the VM for 7 years. After that, it's pretty much up to the lawyers what can be done, but from the language of the settlement it looks like Microsoft would have to stop distributing Java technology (it's own or anyone else's). If that's the case, then it does make sense for Microsoft to go ahead and drop Java, and leave it up to a third party to "bundle" Java with Windows. A perfect opening for Sun to step in and save the day (not to mention that fact that Windows users are currently stuck with an older VM, which seems to me a reason for developers to avoid the Microsoft VM anyway).
My problem with Sun in all of this is the assumption that Java is enough of a standard that it should be included with Windows by default. Java is a Sun product, regardless of how it is being managed. If Sun wants Java on Windows, Sun should negotiate with Microsoft to include it, just like others negotiate with Microsoft. If Sun doesn't want to negotiate with Microsoft (and who could blame them), Sun needs to come up with a distribution mechanism - perhaps negotiate with the OEMs to bundle Java in new machines?
Just because a lot of developers like Java, and some web sites use it, that does not make Java a standard (by those criteria, ActiveX is also a standard). Sun needs to re-think it's Java approach, and either 'fess up to Java being proprietary or completely open it up - relinquish control to some non-Sun entity.
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    If this doesnt help you, i really suggest you call apple, thats what i did, just go to the Contact Us section (could be down the bottom of the page, i filled out a contact form, gave them my number, and pretty much in minutes I got a call from apple, granted she didnt know what the problem meant, but she was helplfull all the same.  So if this doesnt work, call them. 
    Ok, heres what i did.
    When you hook your ipad up to the computer via usb, select your ipad from devices in left panel in itunes, select music from top tab (summary,apps,music,movies,tv shows,books,photos), uncheck the tick in Sync Music box. (i know its basic stuff, but sometimes I stuff basic stuff up).
    It asks you are you sure you want to do this because it will wipe all songs off your ipad.
    Click remove, then click Sync or Apply down in the right hand corner (i cant remember which it is, Sync i think) Anyway, you have to sync to get all your songs off your ipad to start again.
    This then goes through the proccess of wiping ALL your music from your ipad.  When its finished, eject from computer, & check your ipad that it has wiped your music off, if there are some songs on there (which happed to mine, i really dont know what that was about) thats fine.
    re connect ipad to computer, then go back to top tab and check Sync Music box (Entire Music Library selected too.) Then click Sync or Apply down in right hand corner and that should get your music back on to your ipad.  Depending on how much music you have it could take a bit of time.  I have close to 7000 songs so it took some time.
    I know this all sounds very basic and step by step & I promise you I am not trying to be condescending or anything.  I have used macs, ipads, iphones for many years and all these updates & icloud dramas are really doing my head in.
    I hope this helps & if it doesnt call Apple.

  • Flash player in iphone missing

    My iphone 4 says flash player is not installed while opening some sites. How shall I install one?

    Ya I've read it. Have you re-read it recently though? It's amazing how mean spritied that letter is. From what I know I think that most people agree that it was just a personal vendetta by Steve Jobs. I don't recall a CEO ever coming out and just attacking a technology like he did with this letter.
    The other thing is that most of his points are actually even true, and nearly all of them are no longer true if they were when this was written. I've used both the Flash platform as well as the open standards for years now. They are both good and are useful for specific things. To just block Flash is not right and it hurts developers who cannot get their content viewed in the mobile apple browser.
    Anyway, again I'm not trying to be a "troll" or whatever else ends up getting tossed at people who question the Steve Jobs dogma. What I'm saying though is that Adobe has done a whole lot to play nice and Apple has done nothing. Similarly, the latest version of Flash player performs a lot better than html5 and is fully hardware accellerated. There's no reason for Apple to block Flash any more and I've seen a lot of nonsense on these forums where people are just downright mean about it.
    Here are some points from Steve Jobs' letter that are not true:
    1. Flash is not as "closed and proprietary" as Jobs claimed. The AVM+ has been submitted to the mozilla foundation, Flex and AIR sdks are open source and free. There are even open source, free tools for creating swf content.
    2. Apple is actually quite closed an proprietary with it's app store, itunes, it's software and hardware, and has been having record profits as a result (which I do not think is bad, I'm just saying).
    3. Flash player supports not only H.264 video but a lot of other video formats. It also allows developers to fully customize the video playback exerience to be however they want it to be, not just simple playback in a video player. He said people aren't missing much video, but they are. I can't see videos on websites on my iPad probably half of the time.
    4. Apple did not provide Adobe with the necessary hardware hooks for it's platform in order to adequately perform on mobile devices. Adobe pointed this out but was basically ignored. Either way, the latest version of Flash is secure and fast and really great. Jobs' wrote this letter and really attacked Adobe's platform at that time while it was literally in development; not cool.
    5. Users should have access to video whether it is hardware or software decoded, regardless of effects on battery life. However, Apple could easily work with adobe to bring hardware acceleration to non H.264 video. Again Jobs made this claim about Flash when he has in his power to address this, but he didn't (purposefully?).
    6. Flash DOES support touch and always has. Touch events in Flash translate straight into click events without recoding. The only limitation is that there is no roll-over, but that is not even a major feature of Flash. Flash also supports touch gestures, swipes, pinches, zooms, etc. Also, when Flash was originally created it was actually intended for tablet computers, which makes Jobs' PC claim pretty ironic. Jobs said this was the "most important" reason, but it is completely untrue and makes zero sense.
    7. Jobs claimed that he was trying to not allow a third party to come in between developers and the platform. Well, he is actually doing just that by blocking all third party developers from accessing his platform at all. There is nothing about Flash in a browser that has anything to do with native development. Rather, the Flash platform would allow MORE developers to provide content to Apple users as well as allow users to view MORE already created content. Jobs also claimed that a third party might somehow limit platform features until other platforms have them. This makes no sense at all as things like Flash simply make features available or unavailable depending on the platform that it is being run on. Again, this is unrelated to native coding but Jobs asserts that this is somehow the same thing. It's apples and oranges.
    8. Jobs again claims that Adobe only just supported hardware acceleration on the latest version of OS X. That was because Apple has only just then allowed Adobe the required hooks to access the hardware.
    9. Jobs makes the claim that "flash is no longer necessary" to do a number of different things. It simply does not make sense that the addition of features on one technology should be reason to block an entire technology that still offers many unique features and lots of available content. It simply does not make sense outside of some sort of weird personal vendetta.
    10. Lastly, Jobs at the very end makes a very mean spirited quipp about how Adobe should make open source tooling. This is a direct offensive statement against Adobe's technology and hard work. On top of it, Adobe actually has done exactly that, that is how fair they are and support of the freedom of choice in the marketplace.
    So again, I say all this stuff not a some "troll" or a "tool" or whatever else I might get called on here. I say it because on almost every single point in Steve Jobs' letter he is flat out wrong or dishonest or something that I don't know what to call. It's not right, it's not fair, and Apple really needs to change to address this because it's bad policy.
    Thanks,
    David H.

  • How come there is no publishing authority on the internet?

    '''Locked by a moderator with input from an admin. This is a Firefox Support forum, not a place to vent. Please find another forum to post this in.
    I can go to millions of sites that have illegal and offensive content on the internet.
    I feel betrayed as someone who has spent thousands of dollars on a computer and 1000s of hours working on my computer and browsing the internet because there does not exist security measures to keep dangerous content and people from providing content that I would otherwise object to on my computer.
    Thus I do not understand why companies like microsoft who hold a huge share of computer industry do not take responsibility for the safety of its customers. Like wise I am sceptical of companies like google who claim to be a reputable company/corporation however they index and provide links to all these illegal sites I am talking about.
    I am aware of the existence of content filters however I don't believe that having to pay for my security after I have shelled out thousands of dollars for a computer supposedly to be an expression of modern technology that does not have the capacity to maintain decency and appropriateness.
    If websites were to be subject to censorship it would make the internet more useful and ultimately safe - it would be a simple task to employ a team of people to maintain a database of active websites and to review and censor material based on its content. This would make the internet much more viable as a universal tool for modern day business and communication because illegal and deviant material would not be able to be accessed beyond the regulations that need to be developed.
    Google is a perfect example of indexing gone wrong - there is no censorship - any review of websites is pointless because you can toggle access easily through the browser. I believe that internet browsers should be regulated to censor the material accessed. I believe as a user that I have the right not to be subjected to the abuses of evil and degenerate people on the internet. I finally conclude that access to such disgusting content should be available through hacking out a programs default security and voiding of rights of that user to any protection from dangerous material.
    I believe the internet should be censored because there is so much non-constructive material on the internet and it serves as a distraction and detriment to a person's well being.
    A user has the right to their own security and dignity - such development would be worthwhile because it will help to save countless people who would otherwise have to go through disturbing experineces such as I have with internet browsers...
    Thanks for your time :)
    indexing and publishing !!!

    How is that related to Firefox support?
    Sorry, this is not a forum for entertaining a discussion of what is and isn't right about the internet. The tools for blocking objectionable content are out there, it is up to the individual user to use those tools, or not. Bottom line is freedom of choice, and this country defends that for all citizens - pervs included.

  • Never say yes to anything you can't say no to.

    C’mon Adobe…  the only choice you’ve given us is “to use Adobe or not use Adobe” – how is that a good business model?  Your client base is the largest community of artists on the planet - has this been overlooked?  Quite simply, you should offer the ‘Cloud’ option for those who want it, and a downloadable “yearly” upgrade for those of us who’d rather have a choice.  If you really truly believe that us artists prefer the idea of the "Cloud", then you have no reason NOT to offer a continuation of the CS Suites.  The "Cloud" would maintain it's advantage of continuous upgrades, while the rest of us have to wait for "Adobe Day (I nominate July 1st)" to "choose" whether we wish to upgrade or not.  The key word, again, is choice.

    Jeff_Know1 wrote:
    Adobe doesn't like the word 'choice'.
    They did just a few years ago. See the "Freedom of Choice" section of Adobe's site they recently had:
    Adobe - Freedom of Choice - We Love Choice - Create without limits
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110623095449/http://www.adobe.com/choice/
    • At Adobe, we believe that the open flow of creativity, ideas, and information should be limited only by the imagination. Innovation thrives when people are free to choose the technologies that enable them to openly express themselves and access information where and when they want.
    • Openness is at Adobe's core.
    • We believe open markets that allow developers, publishers, and consumers to make their own choices about how they create, distribute, and access content are essential to progress.
    • We remain certain that open markets are the only way forward.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110810034808/http://www.adobe.com/choice/ createwithoutlimits.html
    • As part of our commitment to enabling choice for developers, publishers, and consumers, Adobe ...
    Thoughts on Open Markets - John Warnock and Chuck Geschke
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110716073019/http://www.adobe.com/choice/ openmarkets.html
    • As the founders of Adobe, we believe open markets are in the best interest of developers, content owners, and consumers.
    • We believe that consumers should be able to freely access their favorite content and applications, regardless of what computer they have, what browser they like, or what device suits their needs. No company — no matter how big or how creative — should dictate what you can create, how you create it
    • When markets are open, anyone with a great idea has a chance to drive innovation and find new customers. Adobe's business philosophy is based on a premise that, in an open market, the best products will win in the end
    • In the end, we believe the question is really this: Who controls the World Wide Web (insert how you use your Software)? And we believe the answer is: nobody — and everybody, but certainly not a single company.
    So, Adobe and it's co-founders, John Warnock and Chuck Geschke each co-chairman of the Board, believe (once believed?) the following:
    • Freedom of choice
    • We love choice
    • Create without limits
    • Openness is at Adobe's core
    • We believe that the open flow of creativity, ideas, and information should be limited only by the imagination
    • Innovation thrives when people are free to choose the technologies that enable them to openly express themselves and access information where and when they want
    • We believe open markets that allow developers, publishers, and consumers to make their own choices ... are essential to progress.
    • We remain certain that open markets are the only way forward
    • As the founders of Adobe, we believe open markets are in the best interest of developers, content owners, and consumers.
    • We believe that consumers should be able to freely access their favorite content and applications ... suits their needs.
    • No company — no matter how big or how creative — should dictate what you can create, how you create it
    • When markets are open, anyone with a great idea has a chance to drive innovation and find new customers.
    • Adobe's business philosophy is based on a premise that, in an open market, the best products will win in the end
    • In the end, we believe the question is really this: Who controls the World Wide Web (insert how you use your Software)? And we believe the answer is: nobody — and everybody, but certainly not a single company.
    • As part of our commitment to enabling choice for developers, publishers, and consumers, Adobe ...
    2013, welcome to Creative Cloud? Going completely against their own ideals and core values?
    [Jongware] wrote:

  • No iMovie Support for MPEG 1 Muxed Video?

    When I installed the new iMovie as a part of iLife 08, my iPhoto video's were imported into iMovie...I thought. However, only six of my 400 video clips came across. I called Apple Care and was informed that MPEG 1 Muxed video - the format used by virtually every high end Sony compact digital camera I've owned - is not supported. I was told that, using QuickTime Pro, I could individually convert each video clip in my iPhoto database to MPEG 2 or 4, 4 being the most robust format. That's a major hassle, to say the least. It doesn't seem that Apple would intentionally exclude the video taken by a vast number of iPhoto/iMovie users - Sony camera owners - but it looks like I may be mistaken. Thoughts? ideas? workarounds?

    Apple is meant to be about plug it in and work with it, not spend 2 weeks of ** trying to find information on how to do stuff.
    What you say is essentially true. However, IMHO there is a reasonable expectation that the item "plugged in" will be of the same form of technology as that into which it is plugged. For instance, I would never expect to "plug" a V2 rocket engine into a 1969 XKE Jaguar in place of the standard 6.2 liter gasoline engine and expect it to simply "work out of the box." Not all video is equal. MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 muxed compression was not invented by Apple, the exclusive right to its use does not belong to Apple, and the spatial synchronization technology involved is different than Apple's own temporal synchronization technology.
    How about apple just buy streamclip MPEG and integrate it into imovie 08 so that it is possible for it go say "this is a video I can't work with, please wait a moment whilst I reconvert it for you"... **, why not add it to iPhoto as well, so that it would do it when u add these videos from your camera and avoid the nasty iMovie issues.
    Not a bad idea, but who pays for it? First of all, the QT structure does not reside within the applications themselves. They are now a fully integrated part of the operating system. (Ever wonder why you can't "downgrade" a QT update that is causing problems on your system or why people advise that you "wait and see" before installing?) So essentially, the operating system itself, as well as, all sub-systems and applications will have to rewritten, or at least modified, to properly interface with this new "hybrid" engine that you propose that Apple create. And if Apple is to integrate 2-decade old MPEG technology that pre-dates Apple's own technology and which has never been fully supported previously, should they not also include support for similarly aged interleaved compression formats (yet another synchronization technology) which are no longer supported even by their own creators? What about support for other current but proprietary codecs like VidX or WMP? While you may not want all of these different things supported, the man standing next to you probably does.
    How much are you willing to pay? Surely Apple is going to pass the cost of research, development, and software maintenance on to the users. Will you spend an extra $225 to $250 to have muxed MPEG, DivX, WMV support "built in?" I'm not. Nor am I willing to foot the bill for outdated/abandoned AVI technology which I don't even use. I personally prefer to embrace the current modular approach and purchase/add only those components which I need on a daily basis but the person down the street doesn't use at all. Call it "freedom of choice" or call me a "cheapskate," but it is the way I feel about the matter. To me, it seems to boil down to a matter of "dollar$ & $ense." (Frankly, I would much prefer that Apple fix the current problems with its own supposedly "fully" supported compression formats before "mucking" about in the back yards of other manufacturers'. Of course, that is only my own personal opinion and I'm sure every reader out there as his or her own agenda here.)
    This is not a technical issue. This is a usability issue. i refuse to trawl through my photo collection, re-encode them (even by batch process) and save back to their original locations.
    Oh, I can agree that this is a usability issue, but only if "usability" includes the choice of hardware, choice to use/not use it, as well as, the choice to use/not use a workflow that avoids/gets around the problem.
    1) If viewing and sharing of files is your only concern, then the choice of camera employing MPEG-1 compression is fine. However, the limited support for this format is well documented and of long standing (although I agree that Apple is not particularly "forthcoming" with that fact that is only "playback" supported).
    2) I personally would never use any "still" camera to shoot video clips nor use a video camcorder to shoot "still photos. I.e., you should always use the best tool available for any given job. (E.g., I would not normally us a .22 to go rabbit or dove hunting nor a shotgun to go deer hunting or fishing either.) But, if your MPEG-1 still camera is the only "tool available," then the user must accept the problems that have always accompanied use of partially supported compression formats. (I.e., nothing has changed here.)
    3) Am a bit more concerned about those who did their research, picked a camera that supposedly takes "fully" compatible QT video clips, and now find that iMovie '08 will not accept such clips. (E.g., Kodak cameras which take MPEG4/µ-Law clips and even places them in an MOV file container.) Makes me feel almost as if they were somehow cheated. However, at least these individuals can still use iMovie '06 in this case.
    4) If you have a viable option that corrects the problem or gets around it and you choose not to use it, then that is a matter of personal choice and one should accept the consequences. Since these files were never audio supported in any iMovie version, I don't really understand why this incompatibility issue is suddenly such a big problem.

  • Sharing music with family members with different accounts

    my husband and I have different itune accounts, can i put our music on his ipad? 
    I have all our music on my mac. he has his ipad connected to his work pc.  how can i put music on his ipad?
    thanks for any help.

    John hello,
    to add a bit more to what macmenno has told you... here is an interesting variation that gives you great freedom of choice but still only one data library base....
    Pynestar and TP on multi users
    TP

  • Adobe creative cloud installer crashes under OSX 10.10.1

    When I attempt to run the Adobe creative cloud installer on my iMac, the installer crashes. I can download and install other software, so the basic process works.
    The crash report follows.
    Thanks!
    Geoge
    Process:               Creative Cloud [283]
    Path:                  /Applications/Utilities/Adobe Creative Cloud/*/Creative Cloud.app/Contents/MacOS/Creative Cloud
    Identifier:            Creative Cloud
    Version:               1.9.0.465 (???)
    Code Type:             X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:        ??? [1]
    Responsible:           Creative Cloud [283]
    User ID:               501
    Date/Time:             2015-01-19 07:59:56.332 -0500
    OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.10.1 (14B25)
    Report Version:        11
    Anonymous UUID:        DCA48D91-F3B3-C09F-67CA-5F6309F61246
    Time Awake Since Boot: 150 seconds
    Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
    Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000000000000b
    VM Regions Near 0xb:
    -->
        __TEXT                 00000000000cf000-000000000011c000 [  308K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Utilities/Adobe Creative Cloud/*/Creative Cloud.app/Contents/MacOS/Creative Cloud
    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0   libsystem_platform.dylib       0x95c62aa0 _platform_strcmp + 80
    1   libobjc.A.dylib               0x969133fc _class_getLoadMethod_nocheck(objc_class*) + 76
    2   libobjc.A.dylib               0x969133a3 _class_hasLoadMethod + 24
    3   libobjc.A.dylib               0x9690817f _read_images + 420
    4   libobjc.A.dylib               0x9690760c map_images_nolock + 1526
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    6   dyld                           0x8fe49887 dyld::notifyBatchPartial(dyld_image_states, bool, char const* (*)(dyld_image_states, unsigned int, dyld_image_info const*)) + 687
    7   dyld                           0x8fe495b3 dyld::registerImageStateBatchChangeHandler(dyld_image_states, char const* (*)(dyld_image_states, unsigned int, dyld_image_info const*)) + 197
    8   dyld                           0x8fe52089 dyld_register_image_state_change_handler + 90
    9   libdyld.dylib                 0x93abcbb8 dyld_register_image_state_change_handler + 91
    10  libobjc.A.dylib               0x9691a8f6 _objc_init() + 94
    11  dyld                           0x8fe590b3 ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 291
    12  dyld                           0x8fe59218 ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 64
    13  dyld                           0x8fe552f0 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 296
    14  dyld                           0x8fe55288 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 192
    15  dyld                           0x8fe55288 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 192
    16  dyld                           0x8fe55288 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 192
    17  dyld                           0x8fe55176 ImageLoader::processInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 120
    18  dyld                           0x8fe553e1 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 79
    19  dyld                           0x8fe47125 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 183
    20  dyld                           0x8fe4abad dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 2793
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    22  dyld                           0x8fe46047 _dyld_start + 71
    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
      eax: 0x00000b55  ebx: 0x0017c010  ecx: 0x969224ab  edx: 0x000000b5
      edi: 0x969224ab  esi: 0x00000003  ebp: 0xbff2f218  esp: 0xbff2f1e4
       ss: 0x00000023  efl: 0x00010212  eip: 0x95c62aa0   cs: 0x0000001b
       ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x0000000f
      cr2: 0x0000000b
    Logical CPU:     0
    Error Code:      0x00000004
    Trap Number:     14
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