On my mac vs. mobileme - imap vs. pop - where is my mail going?

i am totally tired of this hanky panky!
so here is the problem. i use a mobileme mail account and i am trying to switch from eudora to apple mail. i imported the last three months of e-mails from eudora to apple mail, and it appeared in ON MY MAC/Import.
ok, so now new e-mail from mobileme is coming into the MAILBOXES/Inbox, and I just noticed one unread message disappear. where is it going? how do i get the messages from the Inbox to go to a corresponding folder in ON MY MAC? and what do the MOBILEME folders contain?
i know that pop servers downloaded all the e-mail to your computer, and that imap servers are meant to keep a copy on the server. i don't really want to delete e-mail on the imap server until i figure out if it is actually going somewhere on my mac and staying there.
any answers would be highly appreciated!
best,
john

996/3442
Hi atomicluck1,
Firstly, activate the "Show Mailboxes" option in the View menu.
Now you can easily select, drag or command-drag to your On My Mac or to .Mac, or delete or rename any of your mailboxes, using the small wheel menu at the bottom of the Mailboxes View blue column.
Dragging a mailbox from .Mac to On My Mac should uplicate the mailbox (green "+").
Command-dragging (no green "+") moves the mailbox without leaving a duplicate at the original location.
Make sure by just draging the mailboxes (duplicating them). Then when you verified they are successfully transferred at their new location, you can delete them from the original place.
HTH
Axl

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IMAP su cks, and POP is 'grouchy' what to do....
I want (need actually) all incoming and outgoing mail to be saved permanently on my mac. Problem is using IMAP, when the mail from the server is deleted - it gets deleted everywhere (synced). EVEN IF YOU SET MAIL TO KEEP A LOCAL COPY. How stupid is that? POP suits me to a 'T', however with more than one platform retrieving mail from the same server a problem develops.
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Using the IMAP protocol, outgoing iPhone mail could easily be copied, tagged to indicate its status and emailed back to the same account. IPhone would ignore it as it has a 'tag'. The main mac would retrieve it, read the tag (remove the tag) and store it in the right folder (sent box, or even sent form iPhone box). All mail sent/received on the main mac would be treated like POP, in that it would be stored locally. Using tags the mac would know if files should be cleared from the server or not, as any deleted by the iPhone would actually be 'tagged' as deleted. As long as a copy existed on the main mac it could be cleared from the server.
This is really basic stuff. Easy to solve, with very few lines of code. APPLE!!!!! help me out here!!! I want IMAP with the ability to keep a local copy of ALL email in and outgoing from either iPhone or a Mac to end up on my main mac. I regularly search for items in email going back many years, and need a copy on my mac to search.
I am not alone in this!! Many just put up with IMAP or POP shortcomings. Why? This is 2009!!!! and we are using such primitive methods for getting text messages.
This would really offer some great functionality with very little effort for your programing team.
Does anyone else have a better (but simple) way to do this now?
Cheers,
Jeremy Williams
p.s. thanks for incorporating my ideas in the latest Nano - its nice to know you guys listen! (feel free to cut me a cheque sometime)

Hi Jeremy,
The "technology" already exists if you put a little work at it. I have an Apple Script do it for me. It's a bit complex but it gets the job done very nicely. I run the script and it does the following:
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It works great and it sounds like exactly what you're after. I can't take credit for it, though. I actually got the script after a demo of it, during MacWorld '07. The developer indicated that he published it online (never looked for it) under the name: IMAP Anywhere Archive

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Let me explain what I mean.
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selected sync with imap
What do you mean?
and typed "INBOX" for the IMAP Prefrix.
This is wrong. Why have you done that?
So I tried yet another option, I created an IMAP account in mail.app,
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