One business system and two FTP server locations

Hi,
We have one business system and two FTP server locations related to it. We have to send two different messages to this business system.
It has to be send to both the ftp server locations.
How do we configure the receiver determination and receiver agreements ?
Do we need two receiver Business systems for this?
How do we configure the receiver agreements especially?
Urgent
Regards,
John

hi
1) you must create 2 CC, each one to one FTP server.
2) how you send diferent message to each FTP yo only have to define 2 Reveiver determination, and two Interface Determination.
3)one sender Agreement
4)2 receiver agreement.
take in mind you only have 1 BS you must create 2 receiver determination, else if have 2 one receiver would be enouhgt
Thanks
Rodrigo

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