One Mac, One Library, Multiple Accounts.

I recently introduced an iMac G4 into my family as their new primary machine (Mine is still my trusty PowerBook), and I have a bit of a problem.
The prior computer (a Windows XP PC) had a fairly large (14.5 GB) music collection. All the files are simple mp3 files, so there's no DRM to worry about in this equation. I copied them over onto an external drive and then imported them into iTunes (my user's Library). The thing is, this is a consortium of everyone's music, and each person in my family has their own user account. Is there any way to make one central iTunes library that can be accessed no matter what account they're using?
Or do I have to copy over these 14 gigs onto each person's individual accounts? I'd rather not, because then as music is added, it would be a pain to keep everyone's music synced across multiple libraries on the same machine. Plus, it would be a huge waste of space.

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Despite searching, I've yet to find a definitive answer to this one - so any advice would be appreciated....
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Make sure everyone's preferences for "Copy files to itunes folder" is NOT checked, or you'll end up with duplicate files.
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I searched a little bit on here, but couldn't find a good solution. Hopefully you can help me out.
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If you have the library on an external HD that has ownership set to be ignored you should be able to reliably have all users use that library. The only caveat is that *only one can open and use it at a time*. It's explained in this Apple document: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1198
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do you know what this does as a practical matter? i mean, is it NECESSARY to check this box? will it try other outgoing servers and NOT WORK if you don't check this box? conversely, will it NOT try other outgouing servers if this one is unavailable if i check this (presumably the answer is yes here). i mean - am i likely to run into fewer problems by checking this box and i assume it is necessary to use the OUTGOING SERVER of the actual domain you are trying to send mail from as opposed to - for example - using GMAIL outgoing server for everything because you think you will get less errors than sending from your email domain outgoing server.
you know what i am saying? i mean, i get a bootload of errors and actually can't send mail these days even though Connection Doctor is telling me everything is hunky dory.
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Single library multiple accounts

hi there, so i've read the article on the support site on using a single library for multiple user accounts... I don't like either of the proposed solutions.
here's what i looking to have happen:
all music stored in a single library "owned" by the admin account
all music that is added is added to that same folder
that folder is the library for all other accounts
is this possible?
the fast user swiching is just LAME, and putting the iTunes music folder in the public folder doesn't allow live updating of other account libraries.
(even if i have to use some third party app to cause this to happen that's okay...unless it's a really iky app.)
thanks a billion

Steerpike
You need to clarify what you are asking for:
<<all music stored in a single library "owned" by the admin account>>
That's easy.
<<all music that is added is added to that same folder>>
What folder? So far all you've talked about is a Library. The iTunes Music Folder is not the same as the Library file.
<<that folder is the library for all other accounts>>
Again, What folder?
You can set up a common Music Folder using either an external disk or the Shared Folder, but live updating Libraries is another matter. Putting music into a folder will not cause it to be added to iTunes, it has to be imported. Even if you could set up folder actions that might import music to a Library when it's added to the Shared Folder, what happens if the accounts are not logged in? What happens to the accounts that are not in front?
What I worked out for my sister and her family was as follow:
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After reading this and several other related threads, I am becoming thoroughly confused about all of this. I have a situation similar to the one that pokerpal described in the post dated January 7 at 8:06 pm, except that the music files on my system are located on an external hard drive. Everything else is pretty much the same though - I am the admin user (and the main iTunes user and maintainer) and my girlfriend is a standard user who has no music in her own iTunes library. She can see and listen to and make playlists from and sync her iPod with the music in this library from her account, and I can do the same thing, independent of her, from my account. And if I make a change to information within a song, she doesn't see it, and vice versa, and I understand that. What I don't understand is why when I add a song or an album to the music files by importing a CD or downloading something from the iTunes Music Store, she has no way of knowing that unless I tell her, and then she can add it to her library by using the "Add to Library" function. Is there no way of automatically updating her library files to add the new song(s)? We have almost 15,000 songs and videos in that library, and I don't even want to think about what might have to happen if the answer to my question is "no." Interestingly enough, if I put an update to a Word document in the same exact location (on the hard drive), we can update that and pass it back and forth all day - why is that such a difficult task for iTunes to accomplish?
Sorry I went on so long, but this has been building up for some time, and none of the solutions I've read about here have really been of any help, so I'm a bit frustrated and, as I said at the beginning, confused.
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Probably best to create unique Apple ID's for each... this will also make things easier in the future as purchases are eternally tied to the Apple ID they were purchased with.

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Okay, we currently have four macs in the house. One was recently bought: i7 iMac (late 2009), another is dying: (mid 2005 iMac), another is going somewhere else: (late 2006 iMac) and another is a laptop: C2D MBP (late 2008). We might add another computer into the mix some time later.
Anyway, what I want to do is have one iTunes library which all of the computers can access (even guest's/friend's computers). We have a Time Capsule, and as I have heard one can make the TC the HDD for the iTunes library, I thought it best for it to be there.
The only thing is, how can each computer (and the possible multiple accounts) each access the same library, without duplicating and messing anything up? Is that possible? If it is too hard for multiple computers to do this, I would still want the (late 2009) iMac to be able to use the same library for the two accounts on it.
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Make sure everything you want to share is on the centralized drive (music, video, and books, but if any of you have mobile devices, keep the apps on your local drive). Mount the drive on your computer. (Remember, from now on you must do this before starting iTunes.) If iTunes isn't running, start it now.
At the moment iTunes thinks the library is on the local computer and has all the music on it so that has to be changed. Click on Music in the left window pane, select all, and delete. This deletes all the music from the library and, if you choose, from the computer too. (Until you are sure this set-up is to your liking, don't delete the music from the drive.) Now go to Preferences and select the Advanced tab. Set iTunes to look at the music folder on your shared drive. And finally, select File>Add to Library to repopulate your iTunes library. This could take a while if you have a large music collection.
Since you changed the music location, anything that is added to one person's library will be saved onto the shared drive so it isn't too much of a hassle to manually add music. You'll have to rebuild playlists which is a minor hassle but it’s a one time deal.

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Here are all the links I have for the different kinds of sharing:
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You can also share a library on the same machine between users the same way.
Sharing libraries between users on the same machine...
-both users must have sharing enabled in their iPhoto Preferences
-both users must be logged in and have iPhoto running
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Sharing links from Apple....
Sharing your photos between computers
About shared photos
Turning off photo sharing
Looking for shared photos
SHARING ONE IPHOTO LIBRARY BETWEEN USERS ON SAME MACHINE
You can try one of these three methods:
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The documentation page will give instructions on how it is done.
2- Sharing one iPhoto library between several users on one machine
3- Share an iPhoto Library in tiger Using ACL's
4- I have also read about ShareAlike
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I strongly urge anyone wanting to try any of the methods for sharing one iPhoto Library folder among more than one user to backup all iPhoto Library folders before attemptin anything.

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