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I see ,one postion belongs to only one org unit (A 003). But Let's assume we have production engineer position(code: 5000100). I want to use this position in Bus production org unit and in Car production org unit. Sap doesn't allow to do this. I don't mean percentage working also i don't mean same employee on different org units. I mean same position-different person-different org units. I don't understand why do we have to re-create same named ,same qualified position again for another org units? So we see a lot of same position in our list. Is there any way to use an already created position with different org units?

I belive U must have two positon. Afterall those two different Org. Units.
For Example:-
We got org units like this
HR , Finance
HR Executive is a positon
Fin Executive is postion
Both are executives but still there is a differene in the similar way you have the differeces
Experts please correct me if i am wrong
Regards

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Mode Short text
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