One smart playlist is being discriminated!

Hello,
I have an issue that would like to share, maybe someone has come across it before.
I have a few smart playlists in my iTunes. One of them is simply "album rating=****", no other conditionals. All the smart playlists are correctly synced, except for this one (that shows blank on my iphone). Stranger still, during sync (which on iOS5 mantains the iphone operational) I am able to see the playlist on the iphone, even play it, but in the moment the sync is completed the playlist goes suddenly blank and music stops.
Has anybody seen this before?

I am having a similar problem. All of my playlists sync correctly to iPhone except for one of the smart playlists. A playlist with the same name appears on my iPhone but it has totally different songs in it, songs which don't even fit the smart playlist's criteria. What's even stranger is that when I click the blue triangle next to iPhone on the iTunes library pane, and look at the playlist there, it shows the correct songs that should have synced. It seems iTunes thinks its syncing the correct playlist but iPhone is just showing random music.
Mike I haven't tried duplicating the playlist to see what happens.
Any advice please let me know....

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I am using OSX 10.4.9 and iTunes 7.1.1 (5)
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