Online backup and RMAN

Can I do online backup / RMAN together?
I want to shedule both online back up and RMAN running on everyday..
Is there any known issue by doing this?

Hi,
Yes you can do but what is need to use two method for backup.
is there anything special reason.
regards
Taj

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Does anyone know how to access the Online Backup and Sharing web site from a computer that does not have the O/B/S software installed? I used to be able to go to My Verizon/My Services/Internet and hit "Launch" for O/B/S, and the link would go directly to the web site for uploading or downloading material. Now, that link takes me to a Verizon page that asks to activate the O/B/S service, and wants to download the software. My O/B/S service was activated years ago and has worked until recently without the software installed. There is no other obvious way to get to the O/B/S web site. (If it matters, I tried this in both IE 9, with Windows 7 64-bit, and Safari.)
After some effort, I got the help number for the outside vendor that runs the O/B/S service. They say that the Verizon web site should link directly to their O/B/S web site, regardless of whether or not the O/B/S software is installed locally, but that the failure to do so is entirely an error of Verizon's on the Verizon web site and they have nothing to do with it. They also said there is no way to bypass the Verizon web site to get to a Verizon O/B/S account on their web site. They said they have received many complaints about this from Verizon O/B/S customers, and that the same problem has even arisen when the O/B/S software is installed on the local computer.
So does anyone know if it is really necessary to install the O/B/S software on any computer used to access O/B/S, and if it is now impossible to access the material from any other computer? That would be a major reduction in the usefulness of the service that was not announced anywhere that I know of. I saw a strong of comments on this issue in the Forums from a few years ago, but the conclusion was that the problem had been fixed. It seems to have arisen again.

Anthony, I tried to private message you several times, but I kept getting an error message stating that my message had invalid HTML that was being removed, and to resend. It did not actually have any HTML, and hitting the resend button just led to the same message.
Also, since my last post, I downloaded the OBS software onto my computer. This gave me access to OBS from that computer. However, even after doing this, I cannot use the old method of directly getting to the OBS web site from My Verizon. The link from "Launch" does not work either on the computer with the OBS software or on any other computer. Rather, the link goes only to the Verizon page saying that my OBS service has not been activated (which it surely has been) and asking to download the OBS software.
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There is a specialized team who troubleshoots issues with the backup and sharing program.
A dedicated internal phone number (866-770-6800) has been provided for hand-offs to the VOL Backup & Sharing Technician.
Hours of Operation are Mon - Sat 7am - 11pm EST.
After hours the customer will be asked to leave a message and someone from VOBS support will return their call during business hours.
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Outlook does need to be closed in order for that file to be backed up. When Outlook is running, the file is locked as "Open and In Use" meaning until Outlook closes the file, nothing else can open that file.
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Online Backup and Sharing

I've been trying to use this software but keep getting an error 1001. So it won't install.
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Hi MissMiguel, you would have to call into Verizon Online Backup and Sharing Technicians for assistance. Error 1001 could mean various different things including, not enough memory, the application log is full, maybe a version was download on one attempt and subsequent attempts are interfering, so we would have to instruct you on how to clear it. So please give us a call at 866 770-6800.
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No web sign in access for Verizon online backup and file sharing - HELP!

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I contacted Verizon support more than a week ago about this asking for a URL with a sign in option to the cloud, was told that it was a problem affecting many customers (obviously eveyone with the online backup and filesharing service!) created by the redesign and that they would have a page created to allow login within 24 hours. I've heard nothing back and still have no access.
I made very clear that this was a HUGE problem for me, as I'm out of the country and rely on file access, and was on deadline for a critical professional project. The support tech I was on live chat with assured me they were working on it and that he would contact me via email as soon as it was resolved. Lots of apologies, etc. but now, a week later ... still no access and no contact. Astonishingly unprofessional.
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hi guys
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Hi,
what are the enhancement of user managed backup and rman in oralce 10g
would u pls tell me in understandable manneRefer below link
http://dbataj.blogspot.com/2008/05/rman-versus-user-managed-backup-part-i.html
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Hi,
can someone eleborate that why less redo generates at the time of RMAN online backup in comparison of manual hotbackup.
Thanks

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In order to handle such issues, after a BEGING BACKUP is issued, for every first change to a database block, the whole block is written to the redo stream, not just the change vectors. (If the same database block is subsequently modified while in BACKUP mode, it is only the change vectors that have to be written to the redo stream). Once the END BACKUP is issued, the redo stream does not need to capture whole database blocks.
If such a backup is restored, it still has fractured blocks. However, when applying the ArchiveLogs generated during the Backup, each such fractured block is "automagically repaired" because a whole image is restored from the ArchiveLog. (Subsequent changes are replayed as changes through the change vectors).
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Hello like to do online backup and clone

dear all
In our company we usually do cold backup's ... But i like to do online bkup by using alter tablespace beginbackup command... By doing this some of application got very slow... After taken backup we like to do clone with existing backup. But we not able to do so.. We got an error that System01.dbf file needs recovery... So we not able to recover it...
So what are all the steps we wanna to do for hot backup and cloning?Is this possible clone with the help of rapidclone...
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Regards
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Dear all
We have around 450 GB disk..While issue command like "backup database " It stores to the default location under $ORACLR_HOME/dbs ... But we have around 360 GB of storage of datafiles.. So let me wanna to use test it also have the same space issue... So only we not use RMAN... I also tried to change the default location in to some other space ... It works ... But i dont know its possible to store some other machine via network... I.e i like to store datafiles into some other machine rather than same server....
One more proble while we taken with rman / some other technique for hot backup some of user process got slow How to over come from this..
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Hello,
During a backup I understand that the redolog mechanism changes, so that when a block is changed for the first time after the backup commences, it's entire content is copied to the redolog files, rather than just the change vector.
My question is, does this happen even when the oracle block size is the same as the operating system block size?
My understanding is that the change in redolog mechanism is because a single oracle block can be made up multiple operating system blocks, so that within an oracle block a change can be done to a few blocks, then a read by the online backup, so that the oracle block read by the backup is inconsistent.
But if the oracle block size was the same as the operating system block size, each change would be atomic, so the problem of having inconsistent oracle blocks would not arise. So the change in redolog mechanism would no longer be necessary. Does the redolog mechanism change anyway?
Kind regards,
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Hi Peter,
I will try to make the issue more clear eventhough so much useful has been written and said in this thread !!
During Online Backup the tablespaces enter the backup mode this has following effects:
1) A checkpoint on TS level is triggered before the backup of this TS starts and DBWR writes all corresponding dirty blocks of this TS to data files.
2) The SCN corresponding to TS Checkpoint remains Frozen in the headrers of all TS files until the end of backup mode.
3) Every change in this TS is logged in the redolog on data block level instead of data record level ; not only the redo info for a modified record is written into the redolg but the whole 8 KB block containing this record ( immaterial whether OS block size is 8 KB or not). The reason for this granual logging is the possibility that
CPIO or DD may copy an oracle block to the backup medium in smaller units than 8 KB while the block is being changed by DBWR which can lead to inconsistencies whithin such a block.
Now When the backup later used for restoring the TS, all blocks written to the redo log during the backup mode overwrite therir "suspicious"versions saved directly in the backup of the data files.
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Hi,
I have cold backup as well as RMAN backup. But i don't know how to restore the backup.
Please anybody send, steps or links for restoring both backups.
Regs,
Brijesh

The "script" would depend on how the backup was done.
A cold backup should be a backup of controlfiles and datafiles.
Was it done using RMAN ? Or done using an OS command (e.g. "cp" or "tar" or "cpio") ?
A non-RMAN cold backup can be restored with the same command that was used to create the backup. If the backup did not include the Online Redo Log files, you need to simulate a dummy recovery from the SQL command line (RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL CANCEL ; then CANCEL) and ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS.
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1. RESTORE CONTROLFILE FROM '/location_of_backuppiece'
2. ALTER DATABASE MOUNT
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Hello!
I am trying to write a utility program that backs up the entire grid data to a binary file and restores it at a later point in time. Assuming that the class files are not updated, I am using the following simple logic
1. Use the cluster and CacheService APIs, get the names of all named caches of types replicated, distributed and optimistic
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4. Write the custom object to a persistent storage
Similar logic to restore the data grid from the custom object on the disk.
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1. I am sure the above logic is not going to recreate the entire datagrid in the exact state it was backed up. For e.g. if I used write-behind, I must either flush or backup the write-behind queue. What other objects should
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If you want a non-intrusive solution then you cannot really use cache stores, as these would certainly intrude into the cluster. Cache stores would also not really be an option if the cluster already used another type of cache store - unless you write some sort of multiplexing cache store.
If your backup/restore solution needs to be a "client" (optionally over Extend) then you have two choices:
1. Build something that is run whenever you want to do a backup - this would usually be an Extend client application. This application would then read data out of the caches and write it to disk. With this option a backup might take a while if the cluster is large but running the backup is pretty easy.
2. Build something that is permanently connected to the cluster being backed up and uses Map listeners to listen for inserts and updates and stores the data to disk. This application could be either an Extend client or a storage disabled cluster member. With this option your cluster is always backed up in real time but you have the overhead of another process to manage.
If all your caches use POF serialisation then either of the above options could be written to just store the POF binary without having to deserialize it and could then be "bolted on" to any cluster. Re-loading stored binaries would need a bit of thinking about although a couple of options come to mind. If you just worked with the binary you might not need to worry about you backup application needing the pof-config of the cluster.
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