Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs
Hi!
We are doing settlement for process orders, most of the process orders are created and goods receipts happened before standard cost estimation is released.
So during varaince calculation (KKS2/KKS1) we are getting error message: Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs
as we cannot cancel the goods receipts for process orders, we are doing settlements with remaining variance only.
The variance will directly go to CO-PA, as we have activated the same.
the example of one process order:
Total goods receipt is : 44175.58 co-product 1
3757.38 co-product 2
total receipt 47932.96
Materials Issued(GI) 20025.98
Activity Cost 11985.3
_Total Cost _ 32011.28
the variance is: 13764.86 co-product 1 ( as per settlement rule 95%)
2156.82 co-product 2 ( as per settlement rule 5%)
15921.68
Once we have done the settlement there are 4 accounting documents posted for variance:
1. Cost of production a/c DR 3757.38
TO Variance A/C Cr 3757.38 ( value flowing to COPA)
2. Cost of production a/c DR 44175.58
TO Variance A/C Cr 44175.58 ( value flowing to COPA)
3. Cost of production a/c CR 1600.56
TO Variance A/C Dr 1600.56 ( value is not flowing to COPA)
4. Cost of production a/c CR 30410.72
TO Variance A/C Dr 30410.72 ( value is not flowing to COPA)
So the net effect of variance account posting in FI is OK.
But where as in CO-PA, variance is different, because only first two values ( total goods receipt value as variance amount) as above are passing to COPA.
Now how can we rectify the variance values in CO-PA?
We are using PA transfer structure A1 with the following assignments:
10 Input price variance
20 Mat Input quantity variance
30 Mat Resource-usage variance
40 Remaining input variance
50 Mixed-price variance
60 Output price variance
70 Lot size-/fixed-cost variance
80 Remaining variance
90 Scrap
regs,
ramesh
Edited by: Ramesh Balivada on Jul 28, 2011 6:41 PM
Hi ramesh
You need to live with this as you cant reverse the GR
To check this henceforth, use badi Workorder_update and write abap code for the Method AT SAVE or AT RELEASE... Check if field MBEW-LPLPR is INITIAL
br, Ajay M
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I am trying to variance calculation using T-code KKS1 but i am facing error as below,
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Message no. KV151
Diagnosis
For the calculation of variances with 000001000010 , the target costs in target cost version 0 are missing for the following reasons:
There were no planned costs and/or planned quantities (see earlier message).
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Because no target costs were calculated, the difference between the
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there are many posts available in the forum already on this topic... I would recommend to search the forum before posting any question, thats the rule of the forum
You are facing this error for one or more of the following reasons
1. Your standard cost estimate is not released. This must be released before GR from the production order
2. If your contr area currency is diff than comp code currency, then your cost estimate must also be updated in contr area currency.. You do this in costing variant (OKKN)
3. GR might not have been done in the month for which you are calculating variance... i.e. This production order was created, say, in July end but actual processing and GR done in August.. So when you calculate variance for July, this error appears. In this case, you can ignore this error
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I am getting following error while running Varience cost through KKS2:
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Diagnosis
For the calculation of variances with 000001061683 0001, the target costs in target cost version 0 are missing for the following reasons:
There were no planned costs and/or planned quantities (see earlier message).
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RegardsFirst check this...
1.Go to t.code OKEV.Select Controlling Area 2222 and create Plan / Target version.
The standard system supplies the following target cost versions:
Target cost version 0 ( total variance)
The amount of the total variance generates a posting in Financial Accounting during settlement.
For this version, select actual costs as the control costs and standard cost estimate as the target costs.
Target cost version 1 ( production variance)
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Target cost version 3 (production variance of the period)
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2.Also try In CO02 goto cunctions...cost...
3.Go to transaction OKV6 these settings control what values are used to update the target costs.
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For the calculation of variances with 000002000063 , the target costs in target cost version 0 are missing for the following reasons:
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