ONS 15454 Back Plane DS1 Cable Question...

Do the DS1 connectors on the back plane of the ONS 15454 mate with screw down AMP Champ connectors or with Bail Lock AMP Champ connectors? The documentation seems to be ambiguous. The part number listed for the connector is a Bail Lock type connector, but the drawings and the last paragraph in section 1.11.2 of the Hardware Installation document suggest it is a Screw Down connector.

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