Open folder, date modified date changing

I finally updated to OSX Lion and now when i access our Windows server 2012 server, as soon as i click to open a folder the date modified date changes to today. I am not opening any files just viewing the contents of the folder. This is causing a problem since we use the date modfied to sort customers jobs often.
It started after I installed OSX Lion. Any ideas?

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I've tried this experiment with InDesign 10 (CC2014) on my MacOS 10.9.5 system and do not see any changes to the OS modification date for the file. Same is true under Windows. And I tried doing some suspicious operations to the document such as printing and PDF export. Closed the document and checked the File Information. The Modification Date did not change. And it normally would not change unless you explicitly save the file. Anything else you are doing while reviewing the document? Again, we would like to help, but can't repeat your symptoms.
BTW, an experiment to try is to “lock” the file using the MacOS Get Info dialog and then repeat your experiment. When opening the document in InDesign, you will see the window labeled as “read-only.” What happens when you subsequently close the document and look at the file modification date?
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Hi Meg,
Just to clarify did you mean viewing the PDF?:
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