Open Format Timeline - What Codecs?

I'm very excited about this Multi-Format Timeline idea, but I'm having some trouble. I've got a bevy of clips in assorted formats - some h.263 FLVs, some Sorenson MOVs, and some DV Streams. I put them all on the timeline, and FCP wants to render them all, just like the old verion would.
All of these movie formats play through Quicktime just fine. I understand that FCP does not support every codec for realtime playback. However, I can find no list of supported/unsupported formats. Do I need to transcode everything to DV-Compressed MOVs like in FCP5?
Thanks for any hints you might be able to give!

The issue is the sequence setting you have selected and how far your other formats need to be moved, so to speak, in order to conform to the sequence. The further from your sequence settings, the more intense the live transcodee has to be and that is determined by your processors, RAM, and drive speeds.
It is strongly recommended to transcode various formats to a common denominator codec for many reasons but mainly you want to reduce the amount of processing. What format you convert to and when in the workflow you decide to do it is dependent on lots of external factors, mostly your delivery format and when you will reintroduce the original media back into the flow.
The manual has some guidelines but this stuff is specific to projects, each one will need a diferent treatment. But we can't be bothered with the hassles of keeping track of multiple formats, we transcode everything immediately to DV. This would be different of course if we were using different sequences but 99% of our stuff is simple DV.
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Because I work with both macs and pcs, my video workflow is a little annoying. I import 1080 60i HDV on a pc, convert to 720p quicktime. I ran out of disk space on my laptop, so I chose h264 for some of the clips, to reduce the size of the files.
Does FCP 6 not support 2 different video codecs in the same timeline? I am confused, any help is appreciated.

Thanks for the tip. I found my answer in the manual: Apparently H264 and mp4 are not supported by FCP's Real Time playback engine when used in mixed sequences. Bummer.

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HEllo to everybody.
I have a little problem with the open format timeline editing.
I'll try to explain it as clearly as I can.
I'm editing a project which will output as PAL 25 Uncompressed 8-bit, letterboxed, through an Aja LH to IMX tape
I'm editing different formats, PAL 25 and HDV 720p.
I'm now doing the online editing. I used media manager to create an offline project and I'm recapturing my media at high quality.
My timeline settings are PAL 25 Uncompressed 8-bit. I'm recapturing my PAL 25 footage Uncompressed 8-bit and my HD footage via component through the Aja with the setting 720p 50 Uncompressed 8-bit.
On the timeline though, my HD footage shows cropped on both sides. Meanwhile when I open the master clip from the browser it is in his 16:9 aspect ratio.
When I re-edit the clips in the timeline they are no longer cropped but show in their 16:9 aspect ratio.
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is there a way to recapture the clips from my timeline in a way that they already show in their original 16:9 aspect ratio?
Or the only thing to do is to swap all the clips on the timeline with their corresponding master clips in the Browser? The project is an hour and 20 minutes, and the second option is quite time consuming and greatly boring.
I would greatly welcome any suggestion
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Thanks Tom.
I suspected it might be as I heard it flowing glibly off the narrator's tongue.
Incidentally, your fame is spreading over here.
Last night at our club meeting we were visited by a neighbouring society. One woman happened to mention to someone that she was having problems with FCE 4, so she was directed to me.
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Hello,
I'm planning on switching to FCP soon. I am editing on premiere right now and if I get a positive answer to my question I will probably make the switch really soon.
I have a project coming that includes SD footage, HDV and XDCAM EX. Would I be able to edit in real time in Final Cut Pro even without any cards (AJA or Blackmagic)?
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Can you mix frame rates? 23.98 and 29.97...25? Well, it will work, but it won't look good. Mixing formats is one thing, frame rates is entirely different. Best to match frame rates before you edit, and if you do that, might as well make the codecs match too. Because mixing frame rates is a BAD thing. Avid doesn't even let you do it. FCP does, and people think that they can then get away with it and are shocked when it looks juttery and horrid.
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In FCP6, is the multicam editing feature "open-format"? In otherwords, can you multicam edit HD (HDV) and SD (DV) resolution video together?
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