Open item manage accounts clearing problem
Dear experts,
We have created some of the liability gl accounts master without open item management. After a period of time we have converted the gl accounts into open item management by executing the programme RFSEPA02. Now we are going to clear the old documents, which are posted before open item management conversion.
Now the problem we are facing is - document splitting for the old document.
Kindly send your openions to clear the old documents or again we are ready to convert the open item management to non-open item management for the GL accounts. How to do it.
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Provision for Amortisation as open item management account??
Hi Friends,
related to previous question ..what about the Provisions accounts
for ex Provision for amortisation ..Pro.Gratuty ..Prov.Leave salary.
Provision for Interest Tax
Provision for Staff Remuneration A/c
Provision for Taxation
Provision for Wealth Tax
Deferred Tax Liability A/c.
Provision for DIVIDEND PAYABLE
Provision for DIVIDEND TAX PAYABLE
Provision for Interim Dividend A/c
Provision for Other Financial Liabilities
Provision for Other Payables
Provision for Proposed Dividend
Provision for Tax (MAT)
For all above accounts can we manage as OPEN ITEM managed accounts???
pls clarify me
regards,
shashi.Hi,
Provision is expenses account, means it's P&L. so it's not advisable to use open item management due to:
Accounts that are managed on an open item basis:
Clearing accounts:
Bank clearing account
Payroll clearing account
Cash discount clearing account
GR/IR clearing account
Hope this will solve ur problem.
TQ
Regards,
Nazrul -
Hi
can any one give me some example of GL accounts which will maintain open item management accounts other GR/IR and rent clearing accounts.
rameshHi
All Sub ledgers are 'Open Item Management'.
Other than GR/IR, Rent clearing accounts.
We can use 'Provision for Outstanding Expenses' a/c as 'Open Item Management', where provisional expenses are booked and cleared upon receipt of actual invoices, like electricity,rent,telephone etc.
Laxmiprasad -
Fagl_fc_valu for open item managed accounts
Hi,
I have an open item managed account and I have activated the delta posting logic. In January, an entry was made and not cleared. The open item managed account was valuated at month end and an entry was posted to an adjustment account and unrealized gain.
With the delta logic, I have not adopted the monthly reversal.
Early in February, the item is cleared. The document created posts an amount to realized gain and an offset to the adjustment account.
At month end February, I run fagl_fc_valu and there are two entries created. Effectively, they reverse themselves with entries to the balance sheet adjustment account and the realized gain account.
First question, why do I get these two entries In the text description, one says RXDAdjustment Posting. The other says RXDTRAAdjustment Posting.
Second question, how do I get the January entry to unrealized gain to reverse. Will this need to be a manual entry or is there something with configuration that can fix this.
Thank youAs per the New GL design it is not possible to post an entry specific to non lead ledger to a GL which is open item managed. The reason is very clear. In non lead ledgers we do not do clearing we only do adjustments entries. Clearing can only be done in a lead ledger. Ask yourself about making a payment to a vendor from non lead ledger. It is not at all sensible.
What you need to do to handle this scenario is to create a new GL (if it is a B/S account then mark it as line item managed and in the text you need to mention that this account is specific to non Lead ledger postings. There is no way in ECC 6.0 to flag a GL for non lead ledgers only. Once you create this account you can post an entry to this using T Code FB50L. From financials standpoint you can club this new GL in the same group or number range where you have the same account with open item managed checkbox.
SAP is working to extend the clearing functionality to non lead ledgers but I am not sure which enhancement pack will have this feature. Till that time you need to follow the solution as described above.
Hope this helps -
Archiving documents having open item managed accounts
Hi All,
We have a requirment to archive accounting documents older than 2 years. I would like to know if it is possible to archive those accounting documents which have postings on open item managed accounts.
Example: If I have an accounting document for good reciept posting as stock account to GR/IR account. can we archive this document.
Thanks and Regards,
SatyaHI,
For Archiving must full fill creteria:
1.The docouments must no longer contain open items. The system takes into account only cleared items or those with out open item management. -
Post open item management account into non-leading ledger independently
I want to use FB50L to post an open item management account balance value into non-leading ledger, the system throws out an error.
I know it can not delete the sign ---open item.
Could anyone give some advice?
Thank you!Hi,
Open item management account as an adjustment account.
By your description the adjustment account for GL account is the same
at Trx OBA1, so this is the reason for error message
FAGL_FC_VAL does not allow Open item management account as an adjustment account
in standard because normally there are more than one ledger set up,
and Open item management account must be valid for all ledgers (as the clearing can't be
carried out by ledger). If FAGL_FC_VAL allows this and made the posting
on one specific non-ledger, this basic rule can't be fulfilled.
It's same as trx. FB50L that doesn't allow Open item management account to be
entered in case of ledger-specific posting.
FAGL_POST_SERVICE012. This is justified because open items must be
made valid for all ledgers in the client, and even if there's only one
ledger (0L) in your case that this is also considered as 'ledger-
specific' posting.
Please also check the SAP note:
1239651 FAGL_FC_VALUATION: Posting with a ledger
However you can apply SAP note 884639 to remove the ledger group from
FAGL_FC_VAL posting, and this way the Open item management account can be
used as an adjustment account. However please note that SAP note 884639
is MODIFICATION and the coding could be overwritten by applying the
support package or with upgrade.
Thanks,
Raviteja -
TDS on Professional Fees as open item management account??
Hi,
Can we create all TDS Payable accounts as Open Item Managed ??
if we dont create it as open item managed accounts what couldbe the problm??
pls guide me?
shashiHello,
If you maintain TDS gl as open item management active
You can run J1INCHLN (remittance challan) in system itself. No need to pass any manual entries. For filling returns at month end it will be useful.
If you are not maintained open item management active system will allow to create remittance challan, bank challan update and TDS certificate print outs.
Regards,
sankar -
Posting in Open item managed accounts in Non Leading ledger
Hello,
I would like to know how can we post into a open item managed G/L account in the non-leading ledger only.
If it is not possible, then what could be the reason for the same?
Regards,
SameerAs per the New GL design it is not possible to post an entry specific to non lead ledger to a GL which is open item managed. The reason is very clear. In non lead ledgers we do not do clearing we only do adjustments entries. Clearing can only be done in a lead ledger. Ask yourself about making a payment to a vendor from non lead ledger. It is not at all sensible.
What you need to do to handle this scenario is to create a new GL (if it is a B/S account then mark it as line item managed and in the text you need to mention that this account is specific to non Lead ledger postings. There is no way in ECC 6.0 to flag a GL for non lead ledgers only. Once you create this account you can post an entry to this using T Code FB50L. From financials standpoint you can club this new GL in the same group or number range where you have the same account with open item managed checkbox.
SAP is working to extend the clearing functionality to non lead ledgers but I am not sure which enhancement pack will have this feature. Till that time you need to follow the solution as described above.
Hope this helps -
Parallel ledger - posting in one ledger only - Open Item managed account
Hello all,
We have a requirement which necessitates posting some entries in one ledger only for the purpose of complying with more than one GAAP. (US GAAP and local GAAP). However we understand that such postings cannot be made to GL accounts which are open item managed.
Is there any workaround for this? How do we get around this?
Regards
SukumarHi Sukumar,
According to my understanding, directly postings to GLs is possible in case of 'Open Items Managed' GLs. To ensure parallel accounting with different GAAPs, you must have defined Leading & Non-leading Ledgers. You can pass entries directly to Non-Leading Ledgers to ensure compliance with the relevant A/cing stds.
Regards,
Amish. -
Data in BSIS/BSAS for a non-open item managed account
Hi
We have a GL account (Bank account) which does not have open item management checked in its master data,
Still I can find line items for this account in table BSIS / BSAS
How is this possible ? and if an account is not open item managed, how do the records move from BSIS to BSAS ?
Regards
SachinNon Open Item Account should have entries only in Table BSIS and no entries in BSAS. Check if there was OpenItem mgmt earlier but deactivated later.
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To switch on open item management account
Hi all expert,
What is the correct way of enable 'open item management' flag for GL account with posted entries? I try to duplicate program RFSEPA02 into ZFSEPA02 and execute it, but this program prompt me 'Line item total does not tally with account balance.'
I have checked using FBL3N and FS10N to confirm that line item total is tally with account balance.
How to turn on open item management flag and change all existing line item to open item?
Thank you.you have copy RFSEPA02 to Z... and comment the following lines:
CALL FUNCTION 'POPUP_DISPLAY_TEXT'
EXPORTING
POPUP_TITLE = ' '
TEXT_OBJECT = 'RFSEPA02'
EXCEPTIONS
TEXT_NOT_FOUND = 1
OTHERS = 2.
LEAVE PROGRAM.
(right after INITIALIZATION) -
Reset of clearing documents with open items managed accounts
Hi,
I posted OI clearing document in Nov 2013 and had to reset it in March 2014. This rest impact my 2013 balances. Does anyone know why this document has been reset with old period? thank youHi Sevinj,
if document got cleared with some fx difference yes there will be impact if it's cleared without any fx diff there will not any impact in books.
T-code FBRA.
Regards,
Raman -
Clearing GL with Open Item Management
Dear Experts.
A liability GL (Remuneration Gl account) has been created by the client in the system without open item management. After that several entries has been posted in that GL account. Few months back they have activated Open Item Management for that GL using a program.Now they want to clear few entries in that GL account and while clearing the GL in F-03 system is displaying an error
Document splitting: Items for clearing 1000/9300000661/2012/001 not found
Message no. GLT0002
Diagnosis
Document splitting cannot perform clearing because it was not possible to find complete splitting information on the items to be cleared (company code, document number, fiscal year, item).
System Response
Clearing cannot be performed and the document cannot be posted.
Procedure
Exclude the affected item from clearing.
It may be that this item was not posted with active document splitting. In this case, this item or document would have to be migrated.
This error occurs due to the Open Item Management activation in the GL after entries were posted.
Now the client wants to clear few entries in this GL account for which Open Item Management was activated recently. The client is not willing to create a new GL and post transfer entries. Is there any other possibility to clear this GL account.
Please provide your valuable suggestions.
Regards,
RamprasathHi,
The reason for the error GLT0002 is that there is no values for
document in tables FAGL_SPLINFO and FAGL_SPLINFO_VAL
Regarding the clearing process in the FAGL_ACTIVATE_OP:
The clearing of the 'old' items is the standard process in the report.
Here is the part from the documentation:
(Please review the documentation on FAGL_ACTIVATE_OP via se38
enter in FAGL_SWITCH_TO_OPEN_ITEM view documentation)
The system then activates open item management and clears all existing
open items. After this clearing, you have the option of having the
system repost the amounts that were initially written off.
This is done to start newly with the OI management once it is activated.
So if you want to activate the OI management for an other account in
your system, please take into account that the clearing should NOT be
opened again in standard.
I would request you to please read the documentation in SE38 for FAGL_SWITCH_TO_OPEN_ITEM
and please check whether all criteria's are fulfilled or not.
I hope this helps.
Regards
Eugene -
Automatic Clearing - Open Item GL Account
Dear Friends,
We have created the Bank Clearing Account as an open item management account. The account would be credited while making the payment to the vendor thru automatic payment run and debited once the payment has been cleared from the Bank. We would like to do the automatic clearing of the open items like GRIR account. Could you please advise what maintenance is to be done on the Config side and which T Code is to be used.
Thanks for the help!
RegardsDear Raj,
Bank clearing accounts is used to for Bank Reconciliation purpose . If you like to automate this process you have to configure Electronic Bank Statement process. You can check the below links
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/ElectronicBankStatement
http://www.sap-img.com/financial/customizing-an-electronic-bank-reconciliation-statement.htm
Note: There are so many posts with regards to Electronic Bank Statement process, you can search from the forum also.
Thanks and regards
Praveen.J -
GL Account Change to Open Item Management
Hi,
Initially I have not created one account as open item management. After a period of time(after some transactions) I have made the balance Zero in that account and I have tried to create open item management for the account. But system is not accepting and error message is - Account balance is Zero but open items exists in the account.
BSRHello Dear,
From my $0.02, If you subsequently define open item management for a G/L account, this entry only applies to the items which are posted afterwards. At the date of the change, the account must display
a zero balance. Also, when canceling this indicator, the balance must be zero. You therefore have to clear the remaining open items before making the change in the master record.
FYI - Please make sure that only following accounts are required to be maintained as an Open Item management Accounts :
Cash discount clearing account
Clearing accounts
Bank clearing account
GR/IR clearing account
Salary/Payroll clearing account
Non Open Item Managed Accounts are as under:
Bank accounts
Tax accounts
Reconciliation accounts
Raw material accounts
Thanks
Moid
Edited by: Moid Siddiqi on Jan 7, 2008 3:00 PM
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