Open Wireless Network

Hello,
a neighbour has since a few days a open wireless network. Now on every start Airport ask if i want to connect to the open wireless network because no reliable wireless network couldn't be found.
In the Airport preferences it is activated that airport should connect on start to my favourite wireless network. There is only my wireless network listed.

I forgot. My Sytem is 10.4.8 on a Intel iMac.

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Depends on which wireless router you have?
The reason why I ask is that when I try an set up a
security password e.g via WEP I can never connect to
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OK. So sometimes when I bring my laptop home from an excursion to a coffee shop or the library or whatnot, I find that it will incorrectly join a random open wireless network called "linksys" instead of remembering to connect to my own network. Now this isn't a huge problem because I can then just choose my own network from the list, but why can't it remember?
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I recently had to completely erase and reinstall my operating system, and am now working to get all the settings back to how they were.
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