OpenGL 2 drivers for ATI Radeon X600 Pro ?

Help!
I play Second Life, and their latest upgrade 1.14.0 which is about to become compulsory is expecting drivers for OpenGL 2, and this version definitely has big problems with the ATI Radeon X600 Pro video card in my iMac G5 iSight, and will make the game virtually unplayable, and mess up my inworld businesses there.
Since this card is not listed on the ATI site, I guess we have to wait for Apple to update drivers. Are they going to soon, or do we have to wait for Leopard?
I thought Leopard was first quarter, that leaves one day left lol.

This is a fresh OS install on an external HD from my original 10.4.2 disks, and then Software Updated to 10.4.9. There are no outstanding software updates.
From System Profiler:
OpenGL:
Version: 1.4.7
Last Modified: 01/10/2005 05:13
Get Info String: OpenGL 1.4.7.14.0
And yet I have seen Core Duo Macs list OpenGL 2. Is there a problem with the Updater, or can a 14 month old iMac G5 with ATI Radeon X600 Pro not be updated to OpenGL 2?

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ATIRadeon9700.kext
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Also if i try and launch UT2k4 i get a crash log error of "unable to create pixel format.
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13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 962:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 963:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 964:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 965:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 966:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 967:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 968:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 969:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 970:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 971:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 972:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 973:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 974:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 975:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 976:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 977:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 978:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 979:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 980:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 981:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 982:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 983:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 984:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 985:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 986:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 987:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 988:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 989:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 990:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 991:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 992:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 993:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 994:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 995:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 996:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 997:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 998:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 999:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1000:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1001:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1002:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1003:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1004:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1005:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1006:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1007:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1008:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1009:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1010:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1011:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1012:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1013:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1014:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1015:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1016:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1017:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1018:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1019:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1020:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1021:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1022:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1023:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 0xaeba99b7
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x01004e48 4f000207 00000007 20080178
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x13c280a4 c0003a0c 00000002 00000008
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x80000003 0000001f 00002a2a 8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000002 00100000 51b3a220 40000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x60000000 0002000a 0008bbbb 00000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000003 0000444f 10031004
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
There was a lot more of this but i dont want to spam the thread
This is the interesting bit...
" Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100"
Any ideas ...please dont just say"Buy a new card" i would really like to get to the bottom of this...if it turns out that my card is fried then fair enough
Quick silver 2002 Mac OS X (10.4.8) processor upgrade to 2Ghz gigadesign 7A</

I'm getting exactlly the same error. This occures after several weeks of sudden & spontaneous shutdowns. And now I get this error whenever I try to launch W.o.W.
Feb 25 07:41:52 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
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Feb 25 07:42:04 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
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ATI Radeon X800 XT or ATI Radeon 9600 Pro Mac Edition for 30" display

I currently have the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro installed in my G5 2.0 DP and it is running my 30" display, but I am having some isssues when I play DVD's the pictures seems to skip every few seconds like it isn't playing fast enough, or it hesitates. I bought the ATI Radeon X800 XT and wanted to know if that would be a better card before I switch it out.

The X800 is a faster card but DVD playback doesn't put much load on the card, so the X800 probably won't help. If it skipping on more than one DVD, the DVD drive is probably having problems. Cleaning the lens ay help.

[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

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