Operating Concern -COPA.. urgent!!

Hello friends
I've created a couple of new value fields in an operating concern in development box. Also generated the operating concern. It didn't prompt me for any transport request though.
How do I create a trasnport request to transport the new fields to the QAS?
I've tried creating them manually in QAS, but it wouldn't let me to.
I'm sure there are some special transports need to be done in COPA to get the desired results, but don't know what they are..
Can someone help please to resolve this issue?
Thanks a lot.
Message was edited by: Fico Able

Thanks for ur answer, but I cannot retransport the operating concern. The op.concern was established 3 years back and I wouldn't risk touching it.
My question is how would I create a trasnport when i create new value fields in an operating concern, so that I can have the same new value fields in QAS as well.
Thanks very much

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