Operating temperatures of K7N2-Delta L and CPU

I was wondering what the temperature at which the motherboard cut power to the CPU was for a K7N2-Delta L?
Also, what are standard operating temperatures for an AMD Athalon XP 2200+?
Thanks
Zach

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Originally posted by Zachdude
I was wondering what the temperature at which the motherboard cut power to the CPU was for a K7N2-Delta L?
Anyone care to take a stab at the first question?

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I just got a K7N2 and a AMD Throughbred 2600, on the box for the processor it shows it supports 333mhz FSB and a true speed of 2133, in the BIOS however it shows 1666mhz, all the time no matter what I set the FSB for or the clock multiplier, also some settings if I try and force the board, it either wont boot or i get a really slow speed like 600 or 966 or something wierd. What the heck is the correct setting for this thing? is 333 just the FSB and seperate of the CPU interface? ?(

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Ok nevermind I feel stupid now, reset the bios and its reading just fine now, thanks guru\'s. :D
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well, i´ve a K7N2 DELTA L and noticed that the processor temp., since it began to work, two days ago, is around 47 ~ 51°C in idle mode.... and when i play any game, just like Call of Duty, or RTCW Enemy Territory, it stays around 56 ~ 62°C... is it okay or too hot... I see it in PC ALERT 4....
Please, help!

I get the exact same temperatures, 60'C max load though. I don't see it as a problem since I live in Greece and right now the temperature outside is a good 40'C ! During the winter the temps (cpu, case and outside ) drop a lot (don't know how much since I only built my system about a month ago).
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K7n2 delta L and sempron 2800 troubleshooting

I have put an sempron 2800 on my mothercard msi k7n2 delta L
and my computer tell me that is an athlon xp 1200 +
My bios is update i have the v5.8 and i have put it in 166mhz
My memory its an kingston pc3200
I don't understand can you help me.
My computer run normaly but it don't recognize the real cpu

Same problem!!!, i already check the j11 jumper and the j10, theyre ok, also i reset the bios
Same problem!!!, i already check the j11 jumper and the j10, theyre ok, also i reset the bios
this is my configuration
AMD sempron 2400
2 256 kingston 3200 400mhz
MSI nvidia 5700 256MB
Maxtor 80GB
but the problem is with the cpu. it says that is an athlon XP 1000!!!, unbelieveable!!!,
i already try to reset the jumper more that 4 times and nothing same result, and i already update the Bios yo 5.80, something else that i need to try? or do i need to do somethign specific?, please help me out here!!

Jumper Settings for K7N2 Delta LISR and Athlon 3200 FSB400

Hello Everyone,
(I think I sent this to Raven By E-Mail but I'm not sure, I'm still new to this)
Having problems understanding jumper settings.
I cheched out the forum and the motherboard users guide to see which way the jumpers are set for my Board K7N2 LISR + Athlon 3200+ 400FSB.
In the user guide it say's:-
FSB Mode Jumper: J10
This jumper allows you to set the CPU FSB mode, (It then shows two diagrams of Jumper 10) - first with pins 1 and 2 jumpered "user mode default 133Mhz" and the secound shows pins 2 and 3 jumpered "safe mode 100Mhz".
What has settings 133Mhz or 100Mhz got to do with a 400 FSB??????
CPU FSB Frequency Jumper: J11
This jumper is used to specify the CPU FSB frequency. (again it shows two Diagrams) first: Leave the jumper short connected if a 133/166Mhz FSB is installed.
Secound:If the CPU supports 100Mhz FSB, leave the jumper open connected.
To use a 200Mhz FSB CPU, set the jumper short connected and enter BIOS setup Utility to adjust the CPU FSB Clock Frequency.
Again what has 133/166Mhz or 100Mhz got to do with a 400 FSB???????
For my K7N2 Delta LISR and Athlon Barton 3200+ 400 FSB, what Would I set J10 to:- (Jumpered Pins 1 and 2,= 133Mhz) or (Jumpered 2 and 3,= 100Mhz).
Also what would I set J11 to:- (Jumper pins Open = 100Mhz) or (Jumper short 133/166Mhz). Hope someone can help!!!!!!!!!
It would be nice if the User's Guide had a (If .... Then..... in it)
If CPU = Athlon 2800+ 333 FSB, Then J10 is jumpered pins 1 and 2,
If CPU = Athlon.... etc etc.... or even a couple of examples
Sorry this is so long, but I just need to tell someone, Thanks.

1 insafe mode it will boot at 100 fsb regardless of what you set in the bios
in user it will boot by what it sees the cpu as or what you set it to in the bios
just leave it in user
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then lower the o/c once it boots
again shut down and put it back in user
2 just leave it shorted
only alter it if you used a 100 fsb cpu

K7N2 Delta ISLR and XP3200 Woes

Let me share some of my experience with random crashes and lock ups on my main system.
Hopefully some might find it helpful and others might have useful comments to add.
It all started when I decided to upgrade my system. I waited until new technology was announced and then went out and bought the hardware that was knocked off the top spot.
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Althon XP3200 Barton
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When I first assembled the system I could not, and still cannot, get it to run stable as a XP3200 with a FSB of 200MHz (400MHz) and the memory in dual channel mode. The system wouldn’t boot, would randomly crash, would come up with fatal XP errors.
So after consulting the message boards I was informed it was probably be down to two causes; a inadequate power supply or overheating.
That is when I went out and bought the Antec TruePower 550W PSU. The reason being the CPU temperature was around 47C - 52C (107F - 115F) with ambient around 35C (88F). Not too hot I thought.
Anyway this did not solve the problem so I then decided to change the CPU coolers. I now have a nice collection, Alaska, Aero, Gigabyte and others. Current one on order is SLK-900A with a delta FFB0912EHE fan. But again this did not solve the problem.
I then thought that maybe the ambient inside temperature was too high and therefore pushing the CPU temperature up. To solve this I fitted two hard-drive fans, four 80mm case fans and a PCI exhaust fan. This was on top of the 3 fans already in the system. Still the system would not run. I even took the side panel off and had a 6” mains fan blowing into the case. Still couldn’t make it stable.
I have just ordered a Thermaltake Wingo V8000A case.
So I decided to check out the XP3200 and memory. After playing around I found out that:
1. The memory is fine running dual channel at 400MHz. I ran memtest using my CPU and memory in a friends PC for 12 hours without any problems (Abit board).
2. The system is stable if I drop the FSB to the processor to 166MHz (333MHz). How I am currently run the machine.
3. The system was more stable if I ran the memory in single channel mode.
4. The point it becomes unstable is when the CPU FSB is 192MHz (384Mhz).
5. The problem occurs on another K7N2 Delta ISLR motherboard. Actually exactly the same problem running a different XP3200 and 1Gig.
I have tried all possible combinations in the bios, except Vcore, Vddim voltage levels. Which is my next step. I think I need to up the Vcore at higher frequencies as I believe it may be a bios /motherboard inherent problem.
I hope this might be helpful to some who are experiencing the sample problems.
Couple of things I don’t like about the mother generally a part from the fact I can’t set it up correctly.
1. The decoupling capacitors around the CPU socket are too close. This limits the choice of CPU coolers you can fit.
2. Motherboard components interfere / prevent you from fitting certain cards in the PCI slots. Such as the SPDF adapter that comes with the motherboard.
And does anyone know:
1. What is the maximum temperature I should be seeing for stable operation on a XP3200?
2. Any recommendations on another suitable motherboard? I basically spent all the money I had so if I can’t get it working I’ll bin the motherboard and buy another one.
Oh, why don't I run it at 333MHz? Well then I got a slower system than I started with and it means I admit defeat!

I have this same board with the same BIOS and am also using an Athlon XP 3200+ (with Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM) and had the same excruciating stability problems. I had tried/tested everything in sight and no stability. Then I found a posting in this forum made a few months back by WebFan (with an XP 3200+ and basically the same RAM), who said he had the same kind of problem. He had only achieved stability when he reduced the FSB setting to 192 MHz (obviously not a coincidence). (Thank you ever so much WebFan.) I reached the heaven of stability by making the same change. Then I started experimenting; I moved the bus speed to 193, still okay. I set the RAM settings to the 3-3-6 2.5 that Corsair says are stable, still okay.
Then, and this I believe is the key step, I installed the lastest set of chipset drivers from nVidia (not the older version provided by MSI). This change subjectively seemed to improve performance noticeably, so I decided to take the big plunge and return the FSB to the rated 200 MHz setting. It's only been three days, but STILL OKAY! Before setting the FSB to 192, I was having all kinds of blue-screen crashes numerous times a day. I haven't had a single one in ten days, three days running at the full 200 MHz.
It seems to me that the board/chipset were not tuned to handle the 3200+. If you look at the description of the board on the MSI global site, it says it's compatible with Athlon XP 3000+ and up. My guess is that only the lastest edition of the drivers, version 4.24/4.27, is up to the job. (I'm not interested in overclocking and so haven't been interested in seeing if I can do better than the rated 200 MHz setting [400 MHz DDR clock speed]. Leave well enough alone, if you ask me.)
Try them; you have nothing to lose but your instability.

K7N2 Delta ILSR and XP2500+ - strange overclocking problem

Relevant configuration data:
- K7N2 Delta ILSR (with 7.6 BIOS version)
- Barton 2500+ (AQXEA)
- Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound
- GlobalWin CAK 38 (7000 rpm DELTA, all copper)
- 2x512 MB Corsair XMS cmx512 3200c2 (it should run 6-3-3-2 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to older documents, and on 6-3-3-2.5 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to newer documents)
- PSU Enermax EG465P-VE (430W)
- Gigabyte ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
- Battlefield 1942 game
I have 2 seperate problems:
1. When I try to set my proc on 13x166 (Barton XP3000+) BIOS won't recognise that settings and it gives me real-clock rate of 833MHz (and no name, just "Athlon XP"). Just a note, when I set proc to be XP2600 or XP2800, everything is great in BIOS and in real conditions (Windows, Battlefield). I had 7.4 version of BIOS and I tried with new 7.6 version and nothing has changed (as I suspected). Can someone help me about this ?
2. Second problem is a bit more serious.
I'm having problems setting my proc to work with 100% stability on 200MHz FSB speed.
This is what's going on:
- Behaviour in Windows is pretty much good (no random restarts).
- Sometimes (on rare occasions) blues screen appears when I'm in windows or some program. Last time when it appeared it said something about "memory managment". I tried to lower memory settings but nothing seemed to be better.
- If I try to freshly install windows on 200 MHz FSB in 98% of the cases installation will be abrupted (blue screen or resets) or it won't even start to install.
- What's bothering me the most is this: Battlefield 1942 is crashing on regular basis. Sometimes it can hold for 5 minutes, sometimes 20 minutes, sometimes half an hour. But on certain moment, puff, and I'm out in Windows. Not a computer restart, just it throws me on desktop.
I've been checking the temperature on regular basis when I'm playing. It is always low.
I've tried to raise core voltage all the way to 1.8v, but same thing happens.
I've tried to lower memory settings, but I get same BF crashing.
I don't know what else to do or what other component to acuse for instability.
Can somebody please help me ?
Thank you in advance !

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Originally posted by ellswt
On the newer 2500+'s the multiplier is locked, this could be your problem
Nope, because I am changing multiplyers without probs. The only multiplyer that doesn't work is 13x.
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...loosen up your memory timings to add stability, and give it a try again at the 200 mhz fsb without changing the multiplier.
I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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also you may wish to go up to 2.7 volts for your ram, and 1.7 volts on your processor to add stability, remember sometimes you have to go up gradually a step or two at a time and keep it there for a day or two before you reach your top OC.
I might try upping ram voltage but that doesn't sound good, because it IS DDR 400 memory (an excellent one too !).
It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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Newest video driver from ATI may help with the stability on your gaming.
Already have newest drivers.
Anyway, thanks for the tips !

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I did a little troubleshooting on my own and learned some things. I borrowed my neighbors computer (athlon xp 2600+ (266) on an asus A7N8X-E Deluxe with 2 512 meg sticks of Mushkin PC2100 2-2-2 ram). This computer has a generic 300 watt power supply, so you have to take this into account after seeing the results. First I ran prime95 on his machine and it ran rock solid. I substituted my PC3200 memory in his machine, and first ran it at 266 with no errors. Then I bumped the memory up to 333 and I got an error after 1 hour 17 minutes. Then I bumped the memory up to 400 and couldnt get past 10 minutes without an error.
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When I put my proc in my machine with his PC2100 memory, I still got some rebooting. When I substituted my PC3200 memory in, I still got the rebooting.
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I can put my proc and ram in my neighbors computer and get no rebooting, whereas in mine it wont stop rebooting when I have it set to spec. It looks like I have to change my mobo and/or my PSU. My PSU is an Enermax 431 watt and I have never heard of an Enermax going bad. That makes me suspect the mobo a little more, but I dont really know.
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I know that the ram-modules works, but not with this Motherboard.
I need to get new ram-modules.
Somebody have the K7N2 DELTA-ILSR, with ddr-ram that works ??? (not K7N2G- IL and ILSR)
[size=15]You can list this here, it will help a lot of people! [/SIZE]

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