Operation Subcontracting involving special stock
Hi All,
We have a business scenario as below.
Operation Subcontracting process involved in a Project. The Components send to Vendor is a project stock. As already there a Special stock Indicator, we cannot send the material to Subcontractor. Any integration with PP-MM is possible ?What is the best solution for such situation?
Regards
Divya
IS the component is in project stock, then You can send to subcontractor, check Whether the stock is in project stock, or unrestricted,
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IST OPERATION SUBCONTRACTED WITH REFERENCE TO ORDER
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i am doing operation subcontractiing. My first operation is subcontracted. So, I have assigned PP02 control key to first operation and maintained external processing data for opration in routing. When i saved the order, for that operation PR gets generated.
Now, I converted PR into PO and assigned raw material that has to be send to vendor. By 541 mvt. type material is issued to vendor. When i do goods receipt in MIGO, system is not showing storage location field. I dont find material in stock anywhere.
But i can see quantity received in external processing tab of first operation in routing overveiw in order.HERE P.O is generated with reference to order.& it is in cost center.while confirming the second operation system will ask for storage location of material received from vendor.it ie not seen in mmbe.iam creating new code and it is assigned to second operation .
Then how can i issue the material from storage for second operation if it is not in stock?
How can i get stock of subcontracted material by MIGO?
Please help me.
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RAHULHi!,
When you say operation subcontracting, in SAP it is considered as a service you are recieving and hence there is no material movement involved in that because you are sending a WIP material and recieving a WIP material back. But as per indian requirements whenever a material is sent out side the factory premises, you need to send a challan alongwith that. To print a challan you need to have a material movement. This movement (541) happens in normal material subcontracting but not in operation subcontracting. To generate a material doc, you can send the raw material with 541 movement but on GR of the processed material just reverse that movement so that raw material will again come in the stock. Then issue that raw material on order with 261 movement.
I hope this will help in resolving your problem.
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Hi Sam,
please check ,
Assign a recursive BOM for the material for which you want to create the purchase order .ie. create a BOM of mat say X having a component X and marking the indicator recursive ticked.
Please create the BOM which is valid much before the date of creating a purchase requisition .
And proceed for the creation of subcontract purchase requisition.
Please Revert back, if the problem is solved.
OMKAR -
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Dear Gurus,
I have one doubt we are doing sale order subcontracting transfer posting by 311 E to vendor. so is it really need to create vendor wise storage locations to track the stock at vendor end, as we have no. of vendors for subcontracting and storage location is part of organization structure.
so is it advisable to go like that ? or please suggest me any other way to track the stock at vendor end sale order wise.
Thanks & regards,
AkshayHello Sir ,
As it is not possible to send material which are already in special stock (sale order stock ) to subcontractor by 541 movement type , it is recommended to transfer by 311 E my MB1B or MIGO...
while doing good receipt 101 E and 543 E will going to happen , for 543 E system will automatically ask storage location. i have done already this but there only one subcontractor was there,
and in this client we have more than 80 subcontractor so i am hesitating to do this....
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PR to PO conversion in operation subcontracting
Dear friends,
We are trying this scenario of operation subcontracting.
I have a semi - finish material SM01 on which i m carrying 5 operations. The 20th operation is sub contracting. I do not want to maintain a separate material for this operation. I have done all the necessary settings which are required. I m also getting a PR when a Production order is generated for operation 20.
Now the problem is when i go to convert this PR to PO in ME58 the system gives me an error, "Not possible to determine any components".
I do not understand where i have gone wrong.
The PR document type that is created is NB.
The PO does not take any material even if I try to maintain one.
What can be the possible solution.
Thanking all you for your kind assistance.Hi pankaj
The concept is like that. You need to send a material out with gate pass to the vendor for that particular P.O.
You might have issued the material from stock for the previous operation so that you will not have a component for that operation. There may be two options.
Options 1) Create a dummy material with MRP type ND so that the planning will not happen and no plan order. keep stock through a movement type update. Allocate this component to the operation in your routing. If the external operations is pre defined.
Option 2 ) Create a dummy material with MRP type ND so that the planning will not happen and no plan order. keep stock through a movement type update. Include this component in P.O while converting from PR. If the external operations is not pre defined.
The component will now appear in ME 2O
Hope this is clear
Regards
J . Saravan -
How to avoid special stock indicator for intercompany sales transitions.
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I have an issue Intercompany sales .if I enter intercompany plant(Delivering plant) in the sales order system is taking special stock indicator and looking for sales order stock.
If I enter company code plant for sales from unrestricted stock, system is not taking special stock indicator.
Please advice how to avoid special stock indicator for intercompany sales transitions.
Thanks in advance.
SRKRavi,
Special stock is generally determined by the MRP strategy group in the material master of the plant against which you place your order. The strateg(ies) contained in the strategy group will determine the SO requirements type, which will in turn determine whether or not the order is 'account assigned' (special stock).
It is normal to only have one strategy contained in a strategy group. However (and I seldom recommend this) SAP will support multiple strategies within one strategy group. In this case, you could have both MTS and MTO orders against the same plant/material, by manually altering the requirements type in the sales order. This scenario is usually difficult for a planner, and involves additional manual attention to make everything work.
I suggest that your first avenue is to change the Strategy group in the material master of the delivering plant to one that supports MTS. This has a big impact in Controlling and in Production Planning, so ensure that all affected functional groups are aware of what you are doing, and of the resulting changes that they will experience. The transition from MTO to MTS must be carefully controlled.
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Dear Guru's
Im tring to use ME2O report to monitor the stocks of subcontracting. In my business we have special stocks (project stocks).
When I run the report it does not give the subcontracted stocks with project assignment.
Am I doing something wrong or is there any otherway to achive this. I want to monitor the subcontractor stocks (with special stock assignment of project)
Thanks in advance
Rupeshcan you explain this scenario a bit more
subcontracting stock is stock type O, project stock is stock type Q
I dont think one stock can have 2 stock types
And ME2O is monitoring stock type O, not Q. -
Consider Special stock in MRP run
Hi all,
Is it possible to consider the special stock (table MSLB) when I run MRP (MD01)?
The type os special stock is 'O'
Thank in advance,
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Edited by: fsimionatto on Feb 8, 2012 8:09 PMSpecial stock cannot be included in the MRP run, either you have to make it unrestricted or implement a BAdI or userexit.
BAdI/Enhancement implementation may not be very reliable :
The following BAdi's are available for MRP related stuff
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MD_ADD_COL_OVERVIEW BAdI: Display of Additional Columns in the Material
MD_ADD_ELEMENTS
MD_ADD_ELEMENTS BAdI for Adding Additional Requirements/Receipts
MD_CHANGE_CALENDAR BAdI: Change Calendar for Range of Coverage Calcula
MD_CHANGE_MRP_DATA BAdI: Change Data when Importing MDPSX
MD_DISPLAY_ELEMENT BAdI for Changing Display of MRP Elements
MD_DISPLAY_ELEMENT
MD_EXPORT_TREE Order Report: Export Contents of the Order Tree
MD_EXT_SUP BAdI for Determining the Issuing Storage Location
MD_INTERACT_PLANNING BAdI for Deactivating Changeability of MRP Elements
MD_LAST_LOT_EXACT BAdI for Calculating Last Lot Exactly in Individual
MD_M61R_DELKZ_POPUP Definition: Display data for MRP element (MD04)
MD_M61R_EXT_REQS_TXT Definition: Supplement data of MRP element for ext.
MD_M61X_EXT_REQS_GET Definition of selection of external rqmts in FuGr M
MD_MODIFY_PRODVERS BAdI for Modifying Production Version
MD_MODIFY_SOURCE BAdI for Modifying Source Determination in MRP
MD_MRP_LIST BADI for further processing of MRP list
MD_MRP_PARAMETERS BAdI: Change Planning Parameters
MD_MRP_RUN_PARALLEL Add-Ins for parallel planning run of requirements p
MD_PIR_FLEX_CONS BAdI for flexible planned ind. req. consumption/red
MD_PLANNING_RESULT BADI for Issuing Planning Result
MD_PLANNING_SCENARIO BAdI for Maintenance of Add. Parameters in Planning
MD_PLDORD_BOMEX_CIF BAdI: Deactivation of BOM Forced Explosion in CIF
MD_PLDORD_CHANGE BAdI for Changing Planned Orders
MD_PLDORD_POST BAdI: Update of Planned Orders
MD_PLDORD_SCHEDULING BAdI: Schedule Planned Orders
MD_PLDORD_TIME_STAMP BADI for publishing time stamp problems
MD_PURREQ_CHANGE BADI for changing purchase requisitions
MD_PURREQ_POST BADI for updating purchase requisitions
MD_PURREQ_REL_STRAT BAdI for Deactivating Release Strategy for MRP Purc
MD_STOCK_TRANSFER BADI: Change the Requirement Date During Stock Tran
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Available userexits for MD01.
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Edited by: Jeevan Sagar on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM -
Hi,
Can any one explain what are all the special stock types and signifcance of them.
How are they useful for business purposes.
I understand that Project stock is for specific project, and also consignment stock.
Pls explain me in detail.
ThnxHi
Special stocks are:
<b>Consignment:</b> the vendor provides materials and stores them on your premises. The vendor remains the legal owner of the material until you withdraw materials from the consignment stores. Only then does the vendor require payment. The invoice is due at set periods of time, for example, monthly. In addition, you can also arrange with the vendor that you take over ownership of the remaining consignment material after a certain period of time.
<b>Subcontracting:</b> In Sub Contract process, you have to provide material to vendor for conversion purpose, Till ytu receive final product, material which has sent to vendor shows as "material provide to Vendor"
<b>Stock transfer using stock transport order</b>: A number of procedures are available to enable you to transfer materials from one plant to another:
Stock Transfer Between Plants in One Step
Stock Transfer Between Plants in Two Steps
Stock Transport Order Without Delivery
Stock Transport Order with Delivery via Shipping
Stock Transport Order with Delivery and Billing Document/Invoice
<b>Third-party processing</b>: In third-party processing, you place a purchase order with a vendor to deliver goods or perform a service for a third party (for example, for a customer).
This means that your company does not deliver the material. You forward the order to an external vendor instead, who then sends the material directly to the customer and invoices you.
<b>Returnable transport packaging</b>: Returnable transport packaging (RTP) is a multi-trip packaging medium (for example, pallets or containers) in which goods can be transported more than once between vendors and customers.
Returnable transport packaging from a vendor that is stored at a location on your premises is managed as special stock and clearly assigned as belonging to the vendor. It is the property of the vendor and is therefore not included in the customers valuated stock.
<b>Pipeline handling</b>: A pipeline material is a material that flows directly into the production process from a pipeline (for example, oil), from a pipe (for example, tap water), or from another similar source (for example, electricity).
A material from the pipeline is always available; i.e. it can be withdrawn from the pipeline at any time and in any quantity.
<b>Sales order stock</b>: Stock that is used for a sales order. It is directly allocated to a sales order. Components can only be used to produce material ordered by the customer and the finished product can only be delivered to the customer via the sales order.
<b>Project stock</b>: Quantity of a material which is held in stock for the completion of a project. The project stock is allocated to a work breakdown structure (WBS) element. Components can only be withdrawn for the WBS element.
regards
Srinivas -
Hi,
Can any body inform us about the special stock indicators available in SAP
MNV RamanaDefinition
Special stocks are stocks that are managed separately as a result of their not belonging to your company or being stored at a particular location.
Structure
Special stocks and special procurement types are divided into the following areas:
· Consignment
· Subcontracting
· Stock transfer using stock transport order
· Third-party processing
· Returnable transport packaging
· Pipeline handling
· Sales order stock
· Project stock
hope this helps
Post specific ?
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Special stock value problem while production entry
Dear Gurus,
One of my client using special stock scenario (E), here in one of the case while producing the special stock through production
the system posted production entry in that the FG and COGM value system taking rs 28.30 for one number, where as in the
material master the standard price is maintained at 471.12 for one number.
I observed one thing during this special stock system not considering standard price as well as moving avg price it is taking price from somewhere i am not able understand where the system taking this price i checked sales order condition value and all but no where this price is mentioned. I want to know in case special from where system considers the price.
where as normal stock everything is fine., please help me in this regard.
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Sreenvias.PHi,
Do you have any Co Component in your system. If marking operation is done the standard price changes acording the production cost.
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Goto SE16
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WRMA_V_MBEW
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Types Of Special Stocks and Inforecords.
Hi All
Thanks for the help being done.
What are the types of special stocks available? What are the types of inforecords?
Vineeth.Hello Vineeth,
The following link will give you very good idea on MM/WM functionalities, and this will be good thead for MM/WM starter..
New to Materials Management / Warehouse Management?
<b>Special stocks can be as follow:</b>
Consignment stock
Subcontracting stock
Project stock
Sales stock
Pipeline stock
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/12/085e61470311d1894a0000e8323352/frameset.htm
<b>Type of inforecords are :</b>
Standard inforeocrd
Subcontracting inforeocrd
Consignment inforeocrd
Pipeline inforecord
Hope this helps.
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Arif Mansuri -
Operation subcontracting - excess component issue to vendor
Hi gurus,
Operation subcontracting
Issue of component to operation subcontractor with excess material.
After goods receipt from subcontracting what is the impact at subcontractor vendor stock , costing and financial for excess issue stock.
example
As per BOM component qty (suppose to issue) is 10
After altering in PO issue component qty will be issued 15
At the time of receivable of subcontracting (GRN) where and what is the status of 5 qty?
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Operation subcontracting (one operation outside scenario)
Hi
I am desperately looking for an answer to this scenario regarding operation subcontracting one operation outside, how will be the BOM, Work center, Routing pl provide docs pdf.
Thanks in advancePlease follow below.
1. In Routing assign PP02 control key for second operation.
2. It will create PR while order release.
3.Create PO for wrt PR with item cat " L"and do Component Posting to vendor wrt PO(MB1B-541)
4.DO GR for that PO movement 101
5.AT the time of GR 543 movement will be done and stock will be consumed from Vendor end( IN SAP it will reduce from stock provided to vendor in MMBE).
6. If Components which you are sending outside are excisable then you required CIN consultant also, check below steps(It can be without payment of duty and full payment of Duty).
check below transactions
7. Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc ()
8. - Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
9. - Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13).
10.- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
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Hi,
We have following requirement, In report MCBA. we need special stock indicator ( e.g. We should have facility to select/deselect
consignment stock, subcontracting stock, third party, stock transper, service.) As this selection Criteria does not exist in Standard report MCBA.
So we are developing new report for the same, which include above criteria. But we dont know where all the special stocks quantity & value posted in the system ( That is Table & field ) .
So anybody can tell us ,from which table/ tables we will get special stock quantiy & value to genarate such reports.
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AjinkyaCheck following tables for special stocks
MSKA, MSLB, MSKU, MSPR, MKOL, MCSD, MCSS, MSCD, MSFD, MSID, MSRD, MDBS
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