Opinion of New HDD Formatting

Does anyone write zeros to your new HDDs? I typically have always done this with brand new HDDs but just curious if there's any benefit to it anymore?
Putting a new HDD in today and wondering if I should just do it (I don't mind at all) or just do the basic "erase" and format and Mac OS...

Indeed there are benefits. First, the drive is received prepped for a different operating system and a different partition mapping scheme. You don't know when sectors may have soft errors even when factory new.
When the drive is new take the time to do a Zero Data single pass. It's worth the extra time to prevent future problems that can include the failure of the drive to properly boot the computer or be seen as bootable. Zeroing the data is not a "stress test." It is a verification of the integrity of the drive and will repair or map out sector errors and remove any data on the platters that may prove a problem. It's not just a security precaution.

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New HDD formatted externally but reverts when installed in MacBook Pro

Hello! I apologize if this is really long. I'm hoping someone can help me out!
My MacBook Pro recently crashed. I woke it from sleep one evening and was greeted with a flashing folder & question mark. I ended up using this as an excuse to upgrade from the original 500gb HDD and purchased a new 1TB Seagate HDD (Model : STBD1000100 ) I installed the new HDD and booted from the Internet Recovery system. From there I entered Disc Utility and tried to format the HDD. No luck. When I would try to partition it how I was supposed to, it gives me an error saying it cannot create a partition or even erase the drive. After searching this site, I found a tutorial on how to do it external. I put the new HDD into a case and plugged it in via USB. From here I was able to format the HDD and even install OSX Lion (this is what my Mac came with.). After formatting and installing the operating system, I reinstalled the HDD into my Mac. I plugged in the external HDD I have been using since the crash & opened up start up disk. When the options came up, the new HDD wasn't there! I went into Disk Utility again to make sure it was at least recognizing the HDD. DU showed the hard drive but when I clicked on it, it said the drive was unformatted and the partition I had made previously was now renamed and grayed out. I can't modify it in anyway.
Am I doing something wrong? Can someone give me the steps on how to properly do this if I am doing it wrong? Or, could it be my SATA cable?
Thanks for reading!
Macbook Pro-> Mid 2012
Error Message Given in Disk Utility -> "Wiping volume data to prevent future accidental probing failed."

If you take the new 1 TB HDD out and connect it to the MBP via USB, will it boot the MBP? If so the internal SATA cable is in all probability the offender. First try the poor man's approach:
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2011/20110415_1_Tinfoilfix--howto.html
If no success, then a new SATA cable will probably be required, An Apple store genius bar appointment will confirm this.
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Can't detect boot device after factory format to new HDD

First off, I have an HP Pavilion G6 that I purchased in December 2012. Yesterday I decided to get a new HDD to upgrade it and start fresh. It's a 1TB SSD+HDD hybrid by Seagate. It installed without a hitch, and I used my HP recovery CDs to do a factory format of the disk.
It finishes, reboots, but instead of rebooting to the HP Windows 8 setup screens, it goes to what looks like Windows 8 safe mode with a box containing the date, time, and it says something along the lines of "HP diagnostics driver installation" with an OK. Clicking that or not makes it disappear, and there's a command prompt bar at the bottom left hand corner of the screen.
The screen changes to an HP screen that begins to install drivers. It finishes, and reboots to a black screen that says "no boot device detected, please install OS."
I ran a check of the drive and it's fine. I swapped my regular drive back in, and it loaded up fine. In fact that's what I'm using right now to type this.
What could be the problem here? The boot order was never changed in the BIOs. If it were the connector failing I doubt it would load the drive that's always been in the computer. Loading up the newly formatted drive in an external enclosure shows that Windows 8 is indeed on it, but on a 93GB partition even though the drive is 1TB.
I'm at a total dead end here and no one seems to know what to do!
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Disk Utility can't format new HDD

So I just got a new 4TB drive (WD4003FZEX 4TB 7200 RPM) for my Mac Pro that I'd like to partition... one volume for Time Machine on the boot drive, the other volume for back-up for the two other drives I have in there. I just installed it and initialized the HDD, formatted to Mac OS Extended, but since that finished, I now have two problems:
1.) Disk Utility cannot/will not format the drive (the HDD itself, not the volume). It's not that the Erase option is greyed out or not working, it isn't even there. When I select the disk, it only has two options... First Aid and Partition.
2.) Partition only works partially. I can add a partition, but the Name, Format, and Size fields are all greyed out, so I can't rename the volume or adjust it's size.
What am I missing here?

Never mind. Found this thread, did what it said, and it all works fine now.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5039921

New HDD Data Doubler Error formating

Brought new HDD and replaced CD ROM with it using data doubler.
When restarted, pop up message shown for INITIALISE disk or ignore. Upon selecting initialise it doesn't do anything.
Just simply opens Disk Utility. When tried to make partitions, it gives WIPING ERROR. when tried to format same error.
when tried formating from windows 8.1, formating failed. How can i use this HDD. It shows on both OS but none of them are using it.

It's a feature of modern 2.5" harddisks , the disk parks the head when its been inactive for a while, to avoid damage , uses less power , and reduces the heat etc gives the harddisk a better looking spec sheet , its meant to park its head after being inactive for a long time around an hour with proper management from the bios/os of the head parking feature, because there is nothing to manage this feature in hp's bios or os the disk parks the head about every minute for no reason then after 1 second the head goes back on the disk thats 1 load/unload cycle , it also effects performance as the head has to find its place back on the disk , load times will decrease by alot , videos will stutter the first few secs, i have the same problem but not as bad after 130 hours i had a count of around 1,250 load/unloads , different brands of disk have different idle timers plus i use utorrent which stops the harddisk from idling so much, there are a couple of solutions, you can find a tool to update/mod the harddisk firmware to increase the idle timer ( i decided against this as you can permently brake the harddrive and void the warrenty) , contact hp and request a bios update with proper management or the harddisk head parking feature i.e tell the harddisk it is idle after an hour, the temperary solutions are download hd tune and run it all the time this stops the harddisk from parking its head as it doesn't let it go idle , or the solution i am using at the moment download a programme called HDD scan , everytime you turn on/off you have to run the prog go to tasks/features/ide features set the advance power management from its default value to 254 then press set, no more unnessary load/unloads, downside is the disk runs a couple of 0c hotter mine still never goes above 40c even under full load thanks to a active cooling pad, also its less well protected against shock.

Can't format my new HDD (WD3200bevt)

i bought a new internal hard drive yesterday and i found that i can't format it (i am sure that the new HDD set in my MBP corrected). i used disk utility to erase it, then says "file system formatter failed." i googled everything but, nothing. i tried to follow the instruction i googled that change the partition type to Guid, however it says again and again too("file system formatter failed."). it almost drive me crazy. i don't know how to solve it.
P.S. i find i can format it into FAT.
my HDD is WD3200BEVT. also i have a wd5000bevt, it worked beautiful.

Hi there,
I don't have direct experience of your problem but have suggestions.
1. Try some of the things suggested on this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1288978&start=0&tstart=0
2. In disk utility click on the logical name of the HD in the side bar (in my case that's a long name with code for the drive and size), select this and not the partition name! then click on the partition tab. From the drop down select one partition. From options select GUID. Then the filesystem as HFS+ Journaled etc. Then click erase. Does that make any difference?
3. Or download Ubuntu and try and re-format the disk using the installer.

Formatting a new HDD

I just purchased a 500GB My Book external HDD to use exclusively for pix files. I already have a similar drive for Time Machine connected by firewire. I have the new drive connected by USB. Questions:
1. Do I need to format the new HDD before I transfer files to it?
2. I have read that picture post processing can be speeded up by creation of a scratch disk. Do I need to partition the new HDD and use one strictly for the scratch disk?
3. Would it help effieiency to transfer my picture software to the new HDD?
I really appreciate your help. I've asked these questions on a couple of photography forums but so far no replies.

andouille07 wrote:
1. Do I need to format the new HDD before I transfer files to it?
Unless the drive was marketed specifically for Mac, I'd format it using Disk Utility.
2. I have read that picture post processing can be speeded up by creation of a scratch disk. Do I need to partition the new HDD and use one strictly for the scratch disk?
Others may disagree, but you might want to try with your scratch disk assignment pointed to your external disk, but I wouldn't create a separate partition for it.
3. Would it help efficiency to transfer my picture software to the new HDD?
I'd leave that software on your boot disk.

Installing and formatting new HDD

The HDD on my two year old MacBook Pro has gone bad, probably defective from the beginning. Anyway, I live in another country, but had someone bring me a new HDD (upgrading from 750GB to 1TB). I have already unistalled the old HDD and installed the new HDD. Now I am trying to clone the old HDD. I have had some problems using Disk Utility. Not sure if I should have cloned the old HDD before unistalling it??
Also, I have read several discussions involving Carbon Copy Cloner. I don't really understand how it works/how I would use it in my current situation. Should I purchase the software? Will I have to back the computer up to another external HDD using carbon copy cleaner, and only then be able to clone it to the new drive?

rogers2nica,
if your old HDD has gone bad, then cloning it would also clone its faulty areas. The time to clone (and make other forms of backup) is when the source drive is working well. If you’re trying to salvage data from your bad HDD, then to minimize problems with your new HDD, you should install the OS and apps on the new HDD from scratch, and only salvage your personal data files from the old HDD.

Tecra P4 not recognizing new HDD

Hi All,
I have a Tecra P4 - PTS40A-02100V which will not recognise the new Hitachi 80GB disk (HTS541080G9SA00). The laptop is out of warranty and replacement disk was purchased. This is the second new disk the supplier has sent me. The supplier is an official Toshiba supplier in Australia. Customer has paid ~$400AUD for the disk, so this could be an expensive exercise.
I am able to get a vanilla Toshiba Restore to work on the PC, however our organisation uses a WinPE based PXE boot environment to kick off image and build of Windows XP. Using a generic Windows XP in our environment is not possible.
Diskpart in WinPE will not recognise the disk. Partition Magic and other popular apps will recognise the disk, others won't. I can create an NTFS partition and format. Can create basic MBR and MFT, no luck recognising. Also I can use the disk in a USB caddy in Windows XP on another PC fine.
This new disk will display the same issues in another known working P4. I see no options in BIOS to get around the issue. I have updated the BIOS to v3.20, however the result is the same.
Any clues?

In my opinion there is no problem with new HDD and it is recognized properly in Tecras BIOS, right?
Your only problem is OS installation using WinPE based PXE boot environment.
For me it is not Toshiba related issue and you should clarify this with local administrator in your company. As far as I know Toshiba dont offer some additional software that can help you. Not for end-user like you and me.
Ive heard that such software was offered for several companies in the past who have bought several hundred notebooks for their employers. What you can try is to contact Toshiba service provider in your country and ask for help. They have good connections to Toshiba directly and they can ask if such software can be obtained for you.

MBP disk0s2 IO error, but some time boot fine.. new HDD doesn't solve this problem

Hello, Apple and all.
Yesterday I get hung a computer after sleep (first time in half a year after replacing the Logic Board).
After turning off and on again, notebook can't determine internal HDD, but this disk if use USB-SATA adaptor work perfectly.
Resetting the SMC / PRAM has not solved the problem.
Replace HDD, also has not solved the prov
In the end, I bought a new HDD, the store I installed it and formatted.
At home, he first worked, then it stopped again determined.
When the laptop lid is screwed on to the bottom of the bolt is not all, the laptop works... should tighten them all, again there is an error, this time "disk0s2 IO Error"
What could happen ?

Could just be the cable. See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2648100?start=45&tstart=0 .

Hi, My Macbook Air Rev A 80gb HDD isn't showing up in Disk Utilitiy (new hdd btw)

Hey guys.. im new and this is my first post
Recently my Macbook Air rev a 80gb original hdd was failing *S.M.A.R.T* so i knew its time for a new hdd soon anyways... then i managed to format it with disk utility one day then after that it completely stopped detecting in disk utilitiy. now got my new hdd which is exactly the same *confirmed* and well its not detecting with my macbook...
Helllppppp meee please
(PS. dont just comment stating the obvious i.e. try a new hdd cable as they are not cheap for a trial and error case)
Thanks...
Ps. i have a secondary Mac Pro to use in the meantime if this can help repair/cd boot?

Does the new drive appear in Disk Utility? If so then you need to prep the drive before you can use it:
Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
When formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Complete the OS X installation.
If the drive does not appear in Disk Utility then either the new drive is dead, you've installed the ribbon cable incorrectly, the new drive is physically installed improperly, or there is some other hardware issue.

Replace HDD w/ Win 8 with new HDD w/Win 7

Just bought a HP Pavilion 17-e067cl Notebook PC from COSTCO. I want to remove the factory installed HDD with Win 8 and the factory load on it and replace it with a new HDD and load Win 7 on it
Is there anything in the BIOS that would prevent me from doing this? If so, can the settings be modded to accomplish my plan?
I intend to use an identical bare drive and load Win 7 on it.
Will a new, retail copy of Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit Full System Builder License and Media, GFC 020250 (1 machine, 1 license) be the correct version of the OS install. I want Home Prem.
My intention is to keep the original HDD with Win 8 in case warranty issues arise in the future or will the motherboard marriage be a problem?
details for the laptop:
prod #: F9L64UA#ABA
HDD: ST750LM0 22 HN-M750MBB SATA (Samsung)
BIOS: F.22
Sys Board: 1984 01.13
Memory: 8GB SODIMM Samsung 1600MHz
CPU: AMD A8-5550M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
disclaimer: my last cert was on Win XP, so I am way behind the curve on Win 8.
Thanks in advance!
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****Disclaimer*****
HP doesn't recommend the installation of Windows 7 on a computer shipped with Windows 8, nor will it support the installation of Windows 7. HP will not provide Windows 7 drivers and suitable drivers may not be available for the hardware in the computer. Also, Windows 7 may not support some of the hardware or software features designed for the computer.
Make sure you create your HP Recovery Discs or USB Flash Recovery media before modifying or changing ANYTHING... even if you are going to swap in a new HDD.
You will need to DISABLE "Secure Boot" and maybe ENABLE "Legacy Support" in the "BIOS Secure Boot cofiguration" on the settings page shown below, before you can attempt to install Windows 7;
or
Some of the information below will vary depending on the HDD being partitioned as MBR or GPT, and/or booting the Windows 7 installation media as Legacy or UEFI.
Additionally, as the hard drive may be partitioned as GPT, you may have to boot the computer using the "UEFI - CD/DVD drive" or "UEFI - USB Flash drive" options in the "F9" boot menu. If "UEFI - CD/DVD drive", "UEFI - USB Flash drive" or something to that effect doesn't exist in the boot menu, please post a screen shot and/or descibe the listed boot options.
I suggest using Windows 7 SP1 for the best intallation experience. If you need Windows SP1, please see "How to Install Windows 7 Without the Disc" to download and create your own Windows 7 SP1 disc. If the DVD refuses to boot as UEFI, you may need to use a USB Flash drive (may require DISABLING "Fast Boot" in the BIOS) as the installation media. Please download the Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool to create a Windows 7 SP1 USB Flash drive. Please note that some computers may not recognize a valid UEFI enabled USB Flash drive if it is formated as NTFS and may require a FAT32 formatted USB Flash drive. You should be able to make a FAT32 formatted Windows 7 installation USB Flash drive using Rufus, UNetbootin, Universal USB Installer, or WiNToBootic. I like Rufus, as it has options for "GPT partition scheme for UEFI computer" and "FAT32".
Most of the Windows 7 drivers from the HP Pavilion g7z-2100 CTO Notebook PC Drivers page should work on your computer, however you may need to source some drivers directly from the chipset manufacturers's support sites.
Please post the Windows Device Manager's "Hardware Ids" for any additional missing or unknown devices as shown in the example below;
If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
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New HDD Will Not Boot Internally

I'm trying to install a 1TB HDD into my MBP in place of the 750GB that came with it. I wouldn't have thought this to be important information, but this 1TB drive has come from inside a Seagate Expansion. I've cloned the drive, and made sure it will boot externally, but it will not boot when internal! Here are all the things I've done to try and make this work:
With the Expansion unit still as sold, I connected externally and formatted the drive to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). With the old 750GB drive still internally, I booted into Recovery Mode and used Disk Utility's "Restore" function to clone the 750GB drive to the 1TB. Once this was done I used the Startup Manager to boot from the newly cloned 1TB drive. This worked fine!
Taking the old drive out, and putting the new one in, I used the Startup Manager to select the new drive and it wouldn't boot. It came up with the Apple screen and spinning wheel, but wouldn't get further than that.
Thinking that some boot information hadn't been copied, I attached my old drive externally so that whatever information wasn't copied was at least accessible, but the new drive still wouldn't boot.
I took the new drive out and connected it externally via USB again, but this time with no drive internally. I selected the new drive in Startup Manager, and I was able to boot from it.
Unsure of what's going on, I wiped the new drive and put it back in the MBP. Booted into Recovery Mode and selected Restore from Time Machine backup. I went through the selection of where my backup was and which one to use, but my new 1TB drive wasn't available to restore to.
I then tried the option to Reinstall Mac OS X, however it wouldn't let me do this either.
I went to Disk Utility in Recovery Mode, with the new drive still internal, to see if the disk needed repairing. I noticed then that it didn't appear to have the same name I'd given the partition when I'd formatted it, and I was also unable to reformat it, erase it, or actually do anything to it at all.
For whatever reason, this hard drive will NOT work when installed internally. I've contacted Seagate and they basically told me to shove off for opening the unit and voiding the warranty, no one online seems to have any ideas as to why this isn't working!
If anyone has some great ideas for a solution they'd be more than welcome!

It worked! Drive and Recovery Partition were cloned without problem and I can now boot to the internal drive as normal.
Thanks for the help Grant!
The fix/method for anyone wanting to do this in future:
Install new HDD into Mac, connect old drive in an enclosure.
Boot to old drive recovery partition
Run Disk Utility from the recovery partition and 'restore' the image of your old drive (which is connected via USB) to the new drive.
Wait a LONG time (5 hours for a 750GB HDD) and it'll clone your entire HDD including the recovery partition.
Whilst still in recovery Disk Utility, change startup disk to the new HDD (the one installed in your Mac)
Disconnect USB drive and boot to the newly cloned intertnal drive.
Celebrate - up to you how to approach this one, I just did a little dance.

Hard disk in mums macbook failed, bought a new one, formatted it first. Have tried starting it with every possible key and I either get flashing question mark folder or a cursor.

Hard disk in mums macbook failed, bought a new one, used sata adapter cable to format it for mac first. Connected it and have tried starting it with every possible key combination and I either get flashing question mark folder or a cursor. A disk is stuck in it so I can't boot from OSX, and yes I have tried every option of starting to try and eject disk but none work. HELP ME!

Five ways to eject a stuck CD or DVD from the optical drive
Ejecting the stuck disc can usually be done in one of the following ways:
1. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the
      left mouse button until the disc ejects.
2. Press the Eject button on your keyboard.
3. Click on the Eject button in the menubar.
4. Press COMMAND-E.
5. If none of the above work try this: Open the Terminal application in
      your Utilities folder. At the prompt enter or paste the following:
        /usr/bin/drutil eject
If this fails then try this:
Boot the computer into Single-user Mode. At the prompt enter the same command as used above. To restart the computer enter "reboot" at the prompt without quotes.
If you have a 2010 MBP or later, then you can use Internet Recovery. Start by rebooting the computer. At the chime press and hold down the COMMAND-OPTION-R keys until a Globe appears in the upper part of the screen. This process can take upwards of 15 minutes to get connected to the Apple network servers. You should eventually see the utility screen of the Recovery HD. You may now go about the process to install Mountain Lion:
Install Lion/Mountain Lion on a New HDD/SDD
Be sure you backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive because the following procedure will remove everything from the hard drive.
Boot to the Internet Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND-OPTION- R keys until a globe appears on the screen. Wait patiently - 15-20 minutes - until the Recovery main menu appears.
Partition and Format the hard drive:
1. Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
2. After DU loads select your external hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed. Quit DU and return to the main menu.
Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion: Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion and click on the Install button. Be sure to select the correct drive to use if you have more than one.
Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because it is three times faster than wireless.

I have a MacBook Late 2008 Aluminium and want to increase my storage what should I buy a new HDD or an SSD? I want it to work faster too, can you please recommend specific products that I can consider

I have a MacBook Late 2008 Aluminium which has 160GB currently. I want more storage and to speed up my computer. What should I get HDD or a SSD?
Also can people recommend specific products that are compatible, what are my options?

If you have a cable that connects and external HDD to the MBP, it will do. If it is something like this, an enclosure will not be needed for the swap:
An enclosure allows you to use your old HDD for storage or backup purposes. The cable will not.
Here are instructions as to how the swap can be performed using DISK UTITY. Substitute You cable for the enclosure in same:
INSTALLING A NEW HDD IN A MBP
1. Make certain that you have backed up all of your important data.
2. You will need a HDD enclosure. One with a USB connection will do. A 9 pin Firewire is better.
3. Install your new drive in the enclosure and connect it to your MBP.
4. Open DISK UTILITY>ERASE. From the left hand column drag the new drive into the 'Name' field. Make sure that the format is 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)'. Click on the 'Erase' button.
5. Click on the 'Restore' button (on top). Drag the old drive into the 'Source' field and the new drive into the 'Destination' field. Click on the 'Restore' button on the bottom right hand corner.
Depending upon the amount of data you are transferring, this may take a couple hours or more. A Firewire will speed up the transfer. This will result in both drives having identical information on them.
6. After the data transfer has completed, you may swap the drives. Start the MBP and you have finished the installation. The initial boot may take a bit longer than you are accustomed to, but that is normal.
7. When you are satisfied that the new hard drive if functioning properly, you can erase the old drive and use it for any needs that you may have.
If there is any confusion on your part, post back.
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