Opinions About New High Resolution Displays

Does anyone have an opinion about the MacBook Pro's new high resolution display option. The price doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. My concern is that the higher number of pixels for the same screen area will mean smaller text display. Am I correct about this?

Yes, you're correct about the text getting smaller, however that may not be the case for much longer. What I'm speaking of is the resolution independent ui in Leopard - where your ui can still remain the "regular" size that you're used to, but everything is still at a higher resolution...
ummm don't really know how to explain it any better - take a look at this wiki article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_independence
So I personally wont even think about upgrading till Leopard comes out - I used 1920x1200 displays on some laptops in the past, and everything is WAY too small for comfortable use.

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Are There Any Advantages To High Resolution Displays?

I am looking to buy a new 17 inch MacBook Pro at the end of this month and seeking practical advice on configuration options I should choose.
I am curious about what other people think of the advantages and disadvantages of the high resolution displays. Perhaps it is just a personal preference on the part of different users but non-graphics users I have talked to who have used the high res screens say they don't like them and why but I have yet to talk to any artists who have used them and whether artists find real advantages. My feeling is that it would be good to be able to fit a larger (more pixels) image on the screen or is it better to just leave high res screens to those who work with high definition video/animation?
My usage of the computer is largely in Photoshop and other graphics programs like Painter, and web design.

Just to be clear, though, reducing the resolution of an LCD can have a negative effect on image quality. LCDs have an optimal "native" resolution and setting the resolution below that native level results in a poorer quality image.
Leopard claims "resolution independence" - I have not tried it yet, but if you read the description of this feature, you will note that it applies to the user interface elements. Granted, that's often what you notice the most (i.e. the problem with reducing the resolution below native for an LCD is that the text in Finder, all of the menu bar items, etc., looks "fuzzy"). By appropriately scaling the UI elements, Leopard overcomes the limitation. But the "fuzzyness" will still apply to non-UI things that are displayed - i.e. images. Since based on your posts you will be working with images primarily, high-res vs. standard is still a choice I'd recommend considering carefully, and ideally by trying them both side-by-side.
Ps. Thanks for awarding points!

17" high-resolution display vs. standard resolution

Hi,
I'm looking to buy a refurbished MacBook Pro 17" and I'm trying to decide between the 17" high-resolution display and the 17" standard resolution display.
The laptop will be connected to a Studio Display 90% of the time and I'll use the laptop display as a second monitor. Battery life isn't a big concern. I like that a 7200rpm drive comes with the high-resolution display.
I'll be using the computer mostly for text and HTML editing, e-mail, web-based reading, and a small amount of simple photo editing, such as resizing and cropping. I'm replacing a Powerbook G4 17" 1Ghz.
I saw the high-resolution display and I thought the text looked small. It was very sharp and readable, but still small. Unfortunately, stepping down to the next resolution isn't as sharp and clear as the native resolution.
I'm wondering if I will get tired of the small text. Not all applications work well and look as good when bumping up the text sizes. And zooming is kind of a kludge.
Maybe the high-resolution display is better for photo and video editing?
The $200 difference isn't that big of a deal to me, especially since the computer is $2000+.
I'm trying to decide if I should go with the high-resolution display, and I'd appreciate your thoughts if you've had to make a similar decision. Do you find the text large enough? If you like your high-resolution display, what do you use your computer for primarily?
Please let me know if you've read any helpful reviews or comments about the high-resolution screen (other than recent 90-day posts in this forum, which I've already read). Thanks to hiking4ever for your helpful post in the other recent thread.
Thanks!
-- Ed

I have the high resolution display, and I just set the fonts bigger for the applications I use in that application's preferences. Foe example, you can go to Safari>Preferences>Advanced and check the Universal Access box. That will allow you to set the fonts at any size up to 24 pt. I set them at 18 pt., and every Safari Application will open in that size. Same for Mail. That way you don't have to change the resolution. I primarily do Safari and Mail and documents now, although I got the high resolution display for photo editing. But I really do like it, and am glad I got it.
Hope this helps!

Is high resolution display for macbook pro 15 available in india?

i was planing to buy a macbook pro 15 in in india but i really want a high resolution display.

There is no Apple Store in India yet, may be soon.
But there are stores that sell Apple products.
Contact them and find out about the products they carry.
Below find the link.
http://www.techpluto.com/apple-store-india/

Make Skype work properly with Windows DPI scaling for high resolution displays

Hello, As of now, Skype does not work well with Windows DPI scaling. Everything looks fuzzy (fonts, icons, etc).Microsoft's recommendation is to turn off the DPI scaling ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2900023 ) but in this case, the text is too tiny to be read. Basically everyone with a high resolution display is stuck with either tiny of fuzzy fonts, making Skype unusable. It's really a pity because other Microsoft programs such as Office work perfectly with Windows DPI scaling, and Skype also looks great on Mac with Retina display. With high DPI displays becoming more and more common, this is a must have feature. Thanks for reading!

pokegwa wrote:
Hello, As of now, Skype does not work well with Windows DPI scaling. Everything looks fuzzy (fonts, icons, etc).Microsoft's recommendation is to turn off the DPI scaling ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2900023 ) but in this case, the text is too tiny to be read. Basically everyone with a high resolution display is stuck with either tiny of fuzzy fonts, making Skype unusable. It's really a pity because other Microsoft programs such as Office work perfectly with Windows DPI scaling, and Skype also looks great on Mac with Retina display. With high DPI displays becoming more and more common, this is a must have feature. Thanks for reading!It's been two years actually. As you can see Skype is really broken on HDPI displays and the issue is still being ignored/unacknowledged by Skype devs.

17inch widescreen display VS 17inch high resolution display

Whats the major difference between the 17 inch matte widescreen display and the 17 inch matte high resolution display?

The standard 17 inch display is of a resolution of 1680x1050 and uses a fluorescent backlight. The high resolution display has a resolution of 1920x1200 and uses LEDs for the backlight. From a practical perspective, the high resolution display holds more on it (granted, it is all a little smaller), is slightly crisper, and has the LEDs, which will make the display a bit less power hungry, giving you better battery life.
Personally, I love having the 15 inch LED screen and would go for it on the 17 inch as well.

I have a high resolution display (3200x1800) and a 13" laptop, but my CC-applications have microscopic icons at the point of being useless.

The text based menus are ok, and is the only option that can be configured to a larger size.
But the icons in the CC applications are so tiny that they are practically useless.
Even extended on a separate 24" LCD display the interface icons are too small.
So, having searched a lot on the topic of high resolution displays, the OS will scale an application appropriately if it is designed correctly.
I am running Windows 8.1, and i.e. the applications in the Office pack scale perfectly. Not so strange, perhaps, being MS.
When will CC get this upgrade?
Kind regards,
Thomas

Please take a look at: Photoshop CC / Windows 8.1 HiDPI / Retina scaling support at the moment Adobe works with Microsoft to work on scaling for HiDPI devices. See reaply from Chris Cox
"Again, we're continuing to work with Microsoft on the scaling problems in Windows.
We, and they, recognize that the existing attempts to offer scalable UI have serious issues.
And no, we can't commit to a timeframe for a long list of reasons."
So you need some patience as HiDPI is getting more and more popular i assume it will be anytime soon.

K9N6PGM2 Higher Resolution Display Modes not Available

Hello,
I've updated a computer with a K9N6PGM2, NVIDIA GeFORCE MCP61P + Nforce 430 chipset, motherboard and am having problems with video modes.
Via the control panel window:
Dell 1701FP (analog) on nVidia GeForce 6150SE nForce430
BIOS 5.61.32.25.15
Modes supported 640 X 480, 16 COL Default refresh
Modes supported 800 X 699, 16 COL Default refresh
Driver 5.1.2001.0
The board is not overclocked.
First problem: On the display setting tab only 800 X 600 and 4 bit color are listed as options. This doesn't match the modes supported info.
Second problem: Where are the higher resolution and deeper color modes?
I've read articles about the chipset and they say "VGA" is supported. Does this mean only resolution above the old VGA specification, 640X480 and 800X600? I've used older MSI boards, nForce2 for example, and the higher modes are supported.
On a similar MSI nFORCE board where high resolution is supported the shared VGA memory value was 64k. As an experiment I increased the share on this new board first to 128 then 256k. While resolution and color depth settings are now available selecting them results in an error message indicating the mode selected is invalid.
I'd appreciate any suggestions of where to go from here.
Thanks
Ed

Thanks for the quick reply.
Updated drivers have been installed but no change is apparent. I can change the resolution and color depth settings under "settings" in the monitor tab of display. Same error message, invalid settings. Afterward the expanded rage of settings is replaced by 800X600 only with a color depth of 4 bits.
Additional suggestions appreciated.
Ed

Aperture has not been updated to support new higher-resolution Facebook images

In August facebook changed the maximum dimensions of a photo from 720x720 to 960x960 (http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=10150262684247131). Much like the last time they upped the resolution of photos on Facebook, Aperture didn't get updated to accomodate this change for months. As I understand this isn't some long gradual rollout -- all FB users can now use 960x960 images, and seeing as this is probably like one line of code to change, I'm just wondering if we'll be waiting months and months again to take advantage of this. In the meantime there's little reason to create FB albums through Aperture since you're forced to use lower resolution images.
Anyone know how to perhaps modify Aperture to make this change while we wait for a proper update?

Totally understand your first point. Some photographers want to protect their work. Thing is, some don't. It's just a hobby for me and I know I won't be making any money on it. People like me just want to put up the best version of a picture FB will allow us to. Perhaps Aperture should allow the user to CHOOSE the resolution of the image that gets uploaded.
Facebook has, for the past while (long before the 960x960 change in August) allowed users to "download" the image, typically at a much higher resolution than what is displayed. The difference is that up until August, images viewed on facebook only displayed at 700x700. Now that's been upped to 960x960.
Upon some re-testing I do have to eat my own foot. I just created a new FB album through Aperture and they are showing up as 960's instead of 700's. However all my older albums still show the images at 700x700 (something FB said would change automatically, since they technically already have much larger versions of these photos to resample to 960x960). It seems you have to force an update by editing the image so it gets reuploaded.
So in conclusion, foot has been inserted into mouth.... though it'd be nice if I could simply "re-sync" my older albums to have them display at 960 without having to fool aperture into reuploading the whole thing....

Should I get the high resolution display?

I'm getting a new MacBook Pro and I don't know if I should get the high resolution screen. Is it really worth it? Does it make the display really better? I've heard some people actually prefer the regular display to the high resolution one. Should I go ahead and get it or not?

As the other response says, you should really go to a store and see for yourself. I first moved from a 13" 1024x768 laptop to a 15" 1400x1050 screen years ago sight unseen, and I was quite happy with it. A few years after that, I went to a ThinkPad running 1600x1200 and was still quite happy. Now, I have a 17" MacBook Pro running 1920x1200 and I love it. It is my desktop replacement system (even though I moved to dedicated notebooks over 15 years ago). I have no trouble reading my screen and love how much I can fit on the screen at one time. I have talked to many others who would rather (and some do) run their 22" external LCD monitors at 1440x900 rather than their rated 1680x1050. It is all up to you and how well you can read the screen.

Internet Security UI scaling on Windows 8.1 and high resolution displays

Please make the Internet Security UI scale properly on Windows 8 and high resolution screens. I have a 13" laptop with 3200x1800px screen resolution and Internet Security UI is pretty much unusable without a magnifying glass. Here's a screenshot (scaled down to 1920p). The text is physically about 1.7mm high...

Good idea

High Resolution Display for MBP 13"?

Hope Apple is listening from this board ... Am I the only one who want the powerful MBP 13" w/ fine high-res display of MBA 13"?

I believe that 133 ppi (pixels per inch) is actually quite high for a Mac desktop, considering that all other Mac OS X releases before it have made the blanket assumption that its drawing canvas is at 72 dpi, and that resolution independence hasn't really taken hold in the Mac world like it has in iOS (and iOS gets away with it by representing displays in a multiple of 2x by 2x).
The current MacBook Pro 13" and MacBook Air computers have a 133 ppi display, which I find impressive already. If Apple does end up doubling that to 266 ppi, I'd really love to see it, but then again, having such a display paired up with an external 27" Thunderbolt Display is going to make me think twice.
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?: Will a high resolution display work in PSCC (Windows)

Hello everyone,
I am going to be purchasing a windows laptop 15" that has 2 screen resolution choices. I can choose a 1920x1080 or a 2880x1080. I would rather purchase the 2880x1620 display but i am confused as to whether or not it will work properly with Photoshop CC in a Windows environment.
Here are my 3 questions for you:
1. Will a 2880x1620 display be workable with PSCC or should i opt for the 1920x1080 option?
2. If there is no solution currently for the higher resolution option do you think there may be one soon?
3. If i purchase the 2880x1620 display can i run it at a lower resolution until the problem is fixed or will not running it at the native resolution create other problems?
Thank you so much for helping me with this. I need to order the laptop soon and im at a loss as to which display to select.
Best to you and thanks again,
rick

Yes Trevor thats me! I thought that was you! How are you doing?? Great to hear from you :-)
A couple of things as i stayed up late last night looking around.....
I have looked at the Dell Precision M4700 and because its got the older processors & its not as expensive as the M4800 but would seem to work well for me. Im looking for something that is not too high a resolution like 1920x1080 (and even that is pushing it on a 15.6" screen im sure), good viewing angles, lots of RAM, decent NITS, decent sRGB coverage and that wont break the bank. Easy chore huh?
I think with this purchase im going to have to make some compromises and by getting this machine i think i will be ok. Im sure they will probably come out with a high resolution fix the day i get my lower resolution display but hey, thats the way it goes huh?
Im using a very old MacBook Pro right now that is 1200x800 and it is excellent so im sure i'll be fine with a 1920x1080 display.
One thing that has me confused is when i look at Dell's website it states that all of their machines are approved for Photoshop CS6. Kind of funny they would say that if that includes the high rez version no?
Also, they have something called an "optimizer" which i beleive is software that works with your computer to optimize it for certain applications on the fly. It lists it as working well with Photoshop. That would in no way be a solution to the high rez display issues would it?
I even saw a video that had the highest resolution display with Photoshop on it and it looked fine! Did they Photoshop that??
Any insight you can give me before i pull the trigger would be most appreciated. I am getting a Windows machine because i have to run QuickBooks for Windows on it and i dont want to use Parallels or Boot Camp. Just me but i dont like the idea of doing that (i know im wierd!)
Hope to hear from you all soon!
Thank you so much for the great help!
best to you,
rick

Macbook Pro 15" High-Resolution Display

Hi
I'm a little confused with the option of having high-res on the 15" model. Is the resolution dictated by hardware or software?
If it's hardware, do they have a different display panel on high-res models? (since the GPU remains the same)
If it's software, then, is it a driver issue or system code that "unlocks" the choice of resolutions? (remember under both configurations, the GPU is the same)
Thanks
gtds

Gregory: You can see exactly what the difference in menu fonts' (and other GUI elements') size will be using your present machine by doing the following:
1. Display a typical/representative set of windows and stuff, including the smallest fonts you normally read, on your present 1440 x 900 MBP display.
2. Take a screenshot of it by pressing CommandShift3.
2. Open the screenshot in Preview by double-clicking it.
3. Print the screenshot, using the following settings in the Print dialog box:
Paper size: whatever your printer can handle
Orientation: horizontal
Center image: not checked
Scale: 100% (do not check Scale to Fit).
If your printer offers a choices of resolutions or qualities, choose the highest.
This should result in a printout in which the fonts and graphic elements are the same size as those displayed on your screen. Verify this.
4. Change the scale to 85.7% and print again, leaving the other settings the same.
This will produce a printout that, if your first one matched what's displayed on your screen, will match what you'd see on the higher-resolution 1680 x 1050 display.
Compare the two printouts.

Anyone with the 17-inch High-Resolution Display?

need some feedback please.

Just came after visiting the Apple Store in London and saw the High Res 17 Inch for myself. Beautiful. And no way are the fonts small. Anyone who gets the low res 1650x1080 is missing out in my opinion. This is more like a 20" MBP in a 17" format.
Sadly they only had the Matt screens in the store. That display in Glossy would look amazing! Can't wait to get mine. It was in Shanghai yesterday, today it is in Holland! I hope it arrives in the UK this weekend...
If anything bad I did notice about the display was that it seemed very bright in the center and that the illumination was not even. Maybe it was the strong lighting in the store? Anyone else notice this?
I also saw the 15" LED ones and they did not seem any better than the 17" to me.

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