Optical Digital Audio with Toslink(SPDIF)

Hello,
I am going to purchase an AD/DA converter interface and I'm thinking about an Apogee. Is the audio board built-in the new Mac g5 any good via SPDIF or do we need to just get an audio card also? I just got the G5 yesterday and I don't have the Apogee yet. So does the audio board built-in the G5 records very well?
Thanks
Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I was on apples site yesterday watching the Pat Metheny interview(it was basically a 90 min Apple commercial) on the pages that held the quicktime files there was a bunch of information about audio recording on a Mac. The said you could get away with it. I believe they said a G5 will record at 44.1 Khz and 16bits. Good enough to get by until the Appogee arrives. 10 years ago this was science fiction and now it is just getting by.

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Moses Kravitz wrote:
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Dman3284 wrote:
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