Options on BOM component backflushing (Repetitive Manufacturing)
We are in the process of implementing Repetitive Manufacturing and we would like some insight regarding BOM
component backflushing.
Our requirements:
1) In a scenario with insufficient unrestricted component stock the entire transaction should be stopped, including the
Goods Receipt of the assembly. We do not want backlogs generated and we do not want a correction dialog box. We
only want the GI of component stock to happen for exactly the exploded BOM quantity or not at all.
2) No opportunity should be given for the end user to modify the GI quantity of the BOM components even if there are
errors.
Unfortunately I have not found a combination of configuration settings in the repetitive manufacturing profile that can
completely satisfy those requirements. Several settings have come close or give us other means of controlling the
process but none have been a perfect fit. We've also looked into setting the stock deficit message (M7021) to "E" but
we are worried about compromising other processes with that approach.
Can you please let us know what, if anything, we are overlooking and what options are available to us to meet these
requirements?
Dear Prasad,
1.Check in the REM profile whether the check box for error correction in dialog mode is mandatory.
2.Check for this authorization object,under the main object C_BACKFL,check for this object BF_POST ,check whether the tick mark
is for all these values.1 Post without correction
2 Display BOM/routing
3 Change BOM/routing
Better not include the tick mark for option 3 and i hope this will solve your problem,
Check and revert
Regards
Mangalraj.S
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