Ora Failsafe init SID .ora file placement

Hi.
I had to move some datafiles to a new storage on a box with Ora 8i using Oracle Failsafe for high availability.
Everythin was fine on one node and I did not move the group after the maintanance procedures.
Next day I noticed that the <ora_home>\database\init<SID>.ora files tha I updated on node 1 was not in <ora_home>\database\ on node 2.
I have the following questions:
1 - When I use Oracle Failsafe, do init files must be placed on local disks on both nodes? Having pfile only on one node is the correct configuration
2 - on my configuration, if cluster failover from to node 1 to node 2, will it work?
Thanks in advande.
Alex

On both nodes oracle db services for the same DB managed by failsafe have the same name. e.g. On node 1 I have OracleServiceXPTO service and on node 2 I also have OracleServiceXPTO.
So, I think that on both nodes SID are the same for the same virtual DB on failsafe.
Do I really must change instance_name on initSID.ora files, so on both nodes this parameter is different between them?

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Init.ora file at standby side

Oracle version: 11.2
Platform : Solaris 11
Both Primary and Physical standby DBs are Standalone DBs.
DB_NAME of Primary = PRIMDB
DB_UNIQUE_NAME of Primary = PRIMDB
DB_NAME of Stanby = PRIMDB
DB_UNIQUE_NAME of Stanby = STDBY_DB
I am going to create a physical standby DB for my primary DB.
After taking the backup of primary and FTPing to standby server I am going to run RMAN DUPLICATE . Before that I need to STARTUP NOMOUNT the auxiliary instance
export ORACLE_SID=STDBY_DB
sqlplus '/as sysdba'
startup nomount pfile=initXXXX.ora
rman target sys/mypasswd@PRIMDBTNS auxiliary /
run
allocate channel d1 device type disk;
duplicate target database for standby dorecover;
release channel d1;
I want to know how the init.ora file of standby DB should be named.
Should it be
initPRIMDB.ora
or
initSTDBY_DB.ora

The init.ora would be named as per the db_name parameter which in your case will be initPRIMDB.ora.
A couple of thoughts:
1) With 11gR2 you can do an active duplicate which does the duplicate on the fly so you don't need to copy files over.
2) With your naming convention if your standby becomes your primary then the naming convention of STDBY would not make sense.
Edit - Having seen msebergs's response. When you start your standby it will by default look for the pfile in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs with the namiing convention init${ORACLE_SID}.ora. However, mseberg is correct as in his link you explicitly supply the init.ora name in which case it can be anything....ie startup nomount pfile='/xyz';

Questions on init.ora file

Hi,
I have some questions on init.ora file. While checking the init file in my system i found that it defines a spfile in a non default location.
The parameter names are like
1) db1.__db_cache_size
2) *._kgl_large_heap_warning_threshold
3) *.sga_target
what do they indicate? I mean what does 'db1.__' , '*._' and '*.' indicate? There are multiple database in the Windows 2003 server and the db version is 10g R1
Regards,
SID
Edited by: SID3 on Jun 29, 2010 5:55 AM
Edited by: SID3 on Jun 29, 2010 5:56 AM

SID3 wrote:
From the discussion i guess the following points
1) db1._ means they are specific to databases.
2) *._ and * means they are used accross databases and chaging it in any of the initfile might affect all? I seriously doubt this.You are mistaken when speaking about database. Bear in mind, a database is not an instance.
* here means this parameter will apply to any instance of that database (if it is in RAC), or to the only one instance of that database (if it is in non-RAC).
Find out more :
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14200/statements_2013.htm#i2146449
Nicolas.

CHANGING THE DIRECTORY OF INIT.ORA FILE

Hi,
I have a database in 8i. Can I change the diredtory of init.ora file ? If yes how ?
it is in d:\oracle\ora8
and I want tu put it in d:\anothrfolder
Many thanks before.

That's what I did , but :
SQL> SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.
SQL> exit
Disconnected from Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production
C:\Documents and Settings\user>oradim -delete -sid DB1
C:\Documents and Settings\user>oradim -EDIT -SID DB1 -PFILE C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora
DIM-00010: SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\OracleService key does not exist
O/S-Error: (OS 2) Le fichier spÚcifiÚ est introuvable.
DIM-00010: SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\OracleService key does not exist
O/S-Error: (OS 2) Le fichier spÚcifiÚ est introuvable.
C:\Documents and Settings\user>oradim -EDIT -SID DB1 -PFILE C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora -startmode auto
DIM-00010: SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\OracleService key does not exist
O/S-Error: (OS 2) Le fichier spÚcifiÚ est introuvable.
DIM-00010: SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\OracleService key does not exist
O/S-Error: (OS 2) Le fichier spÚcifiÚ est introuvable.
C:\Documents and Settings\user>oradim -NEW -SID DB1 -PFILE C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora -startmode auto
C:\Documents and Settings\user>sqlplus "/ as sysdba"
SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Me Mai 16 12:22:25 2007
(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 8.1.7.4.1 - Production
SQL> shutdown immediate
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.
SQL> startup
LRM-00109: could not open parameter file 'C:\oracle\admin\db1\pfile\initdb1.ora'
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Oracle 11g init.ora file

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Long

Hi,
the entries with double underscore in the spfile that you mention are not new in 11g but also show up in 10g.
They are caused by the background process MMAN (Memory Manager), that is active if you set SGA_TARGET>0 (in 10g) rsp. MEMORY_TARGET>0 (in 11g).
This MMAN modifies the Oracle Memory components like the shared pool and the buffer cache, using performance statistics captured by the MMON (Manageability Monitor) and storing the new size of the component in the spfile in order to make that size persistent through instance restarts.
The prefix of the SID is meaningless in case of a non-RAC database.
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Uwe
http://uhesse.wordpress.com

Init.ora file parameter 'processses' not working

When I change the number of processes in my init.ora file from the default of 30 to 200, I get an error when accessing from SQLPlus that Oracle cannot be found. I run Oracle 8.1.6i on a Solaris v7 platform. Any suggestions???

I think your database could not "be found"
'cause it isn't up.
Change the init.ora file parameter 'processses' to 'processes' and restart
the database.
Oracle refuses starting up, if there are
mistyped parameters in init<SID>.ora.
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Hi
I have an Oracle 8.1.7 on Windows2000 with 640MB RAM.The Oracle home in D:\ drive and initial paging size on C:\ =960MB and Maxi. = 1920 MB
and the total paging file size is 960MB.
No. Of users 15.
SO I want PLS the parameters of the Init<SID>.ORA of this database specialy things regarding to RAM,SGA,Sahred_Pool_size and memory.

Hi
I have an Oracle 8.1.7 on Windows2000 with 640MB RAM.The Oracle home in D:\ drive and initial paging size on C:\ =960MB and Maxi. = 1920 MB
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No. Of users 15.
SO I want PLS the parameters of the Init<SID>.ORA of this database specialy things regarding to RAM,SGA,Sahred_Pool_size and memory.And how can I set the db_block_buffers,Block_Buffer and Log Buffer. You can use the following parameters, depends on what you like to have:
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Moving init.ora file

Hi,
I'm in 8i on WinXP. By doing following I move init.ora file :
SQLPLUS>shutdown immediate
user>oradim -EDIT -SID DB1 -PFILE C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora -startmode auto
Now if I start the service, it is OK and DB would be open. but if I issu startup I have errors :
SQL> startup
LRM-00109: could not open parameter file 'C:\oracle\admin\db1\pfile\initdb1.ora'
LRM-00113: error when processing file 'C:\oracle\admin\db1\pfile\initdb1.ora'
ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
Even if registry fir pfile key is changed, it is with new position of init.ora file, but startup command line look for ancient init.ora file, Why ?
I should use :
SQL> startup pfile='C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora'
Any solution ?
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we are in 8i :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0
ID REG_SZ 0
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ORA_REPRMAN_AUTOSTART REG_EXPAND_SZ TRUE
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NLS_LANG REG_SZ FRENCH_FRANCE.WE8ISO8859P1
ORACLE_HOME_KEY REG_SZ Software\ORACLE\HOME0
SQLPATH REG_SZ C:\oracle\ora81\dbs
ORACLE_BASE REG_SZ C:\oracle
MSHELP_TOOLS REG_SZ C:\oracle\ora81\MSHELP
RDBMS_CONTROL REG_SZ C:\oracle\ora81\DATABASE
RDBMS_ARCHIVE REG_SZ C:\oracle\ora81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE
ORACLE_SID REG_SZ reprman
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ORA_DB1_PFILE REG_EXPAND_SZ C:\oracle\admin\db1\exp\initdb1.ora
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Which init.ora file in use?

I found init.ora in a couple places.
How do I determine which init.ora file my oracle is using?
Is there a sqlplus command to fine the init.ora in use?
So far, I found them here:
c:\oracle11g\dbs\init.ora
c:\oracle11g\admin\mydb1\pfile\init.ora.8172009222712
Which one is active?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

The one that's there in the DBS folder is the first one that is going to be looked upon by Oracle when it will try to start the instance. The one in the $OH/dbs/ is going to be active. The other location would not have the pfile all the time. Also, spfile should be used if you are in 11g. Why you areusing pfile instead of it?
Here is what I have for 11g system,
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.1.0.6.0 - Production
With the Partitioning, Oracle Label Security, OLAP, Data Mining
and Real Application Testing options
SQL> show parameter spfile
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
spfile                               string      /u01/app/oracle/product/11.1.0
                                                 /db_1/dbs/spfileorcl.ora
SQL>You can see the path is $OH/dbs.
HTH
Aman....

Init.ora file in SAP

can anyone tell me where is the location of init.ora file in SAP R/3

Its under /oracle/<sid>/102_64/dbs

Which process reads the spfile/init.ora file

Hi,
When we start the Oracle DB using "STARTUP" command, which background process reads the spfile/init.ora file?
Also on startup, which process reads the control file?

Hi,
I think the oracle executable.. In the alert log file below you can see that spfile is read first. After that the oracle background processes are initialized.
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Large Pages used by this instance: 0 (0 KB)
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Missing "init.ora" file

I search lots of website to find out how to create batabase by manual without using OBCA. Almost of the website said that I need to find the "init.ora" file,
then copy and edit some of the parameters. But the problem is I couldn't find
"init.ora" file in Windows XP Pro. Is thers someone can tell me the exactly path for this file or help me to create a New "init.ora" file ?
One more question. Does this file exist before I create new SID or after ?
Thank you.

Hi,
go to start menu and click search option then find init.ora or *.ora, see results ? anyways the location of the init.ora file is d:\oracle\0ra90\admin\sample\pfile if you replace ora_home with d:\oracle and your db must be oracle 9.0.1.you can do one more thing use dbca to create a sampme file.use it and at the very last step uncheck create database and check create script sort of option.save it and use it accroding to your requirement.
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How to find current init.ora file

I have 2 issues:
Issue 1:--
I have some 4-5 init.ora file which are created by some other user and facing difficulties to find exact init.ora which is used by my oracle 9.2 database. same thing for spfile.
Is there any way so that i can find the currently use init.ora file?
Issue 2:
I want to change init.ora file parameters for the oracle9.2(siebel).
Presently default it is showing optimizer_mode=CHOOSE
I have tried to change to RULE but not refelecting after database restart.
at session level i can modify but i want permanent change and for thius i tried with
user SYS as SYSDBA with
ALTER SYSTEM SET optimizer_mode=RULE;
but getting following Oracle erroe message
ORA-02096 specified initialization parameter is not modifiable with this option
Cause: Though the initialization parameter is modifiable, it cannot be modified using the specified command.
Action: Check the Oracle9i Database Administrator's Guide for information about under what scope the parameter may be modified
How we can make changes in init.ora file?
Regards
Junu

As far as I know, there's no possible way to find out which parameter file was used to start instance. And, even if it was, I don't really see much sense in it because parameter file is a client-side file, and usually it required to start up Oracle instance remotely.
In principle, parameter files are obsolete beasts, consider using server parameter file (SPFILE) instead. And, for SPFILE, it's pretty easy to find out its location:
SQL> show parameter pfile
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
spfile                               string      %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE\SPFILE%
                                                 ORACLE_SID%.ORAAs for your ORA-02096 error, you have two opportunities to resolve it.
If you decided to use SPFILE, create one (for example, using CREATE SPFILE FROM PFILE command), start your instance with SPFILE then issue:
ALTER SYSTEM SET optimizer_mode=RULE SCOPE = SPFILE;and bounce your instance.
If you still wish to use old-style parameter file, you have to add corresponding setting into that file manually (it's a plain text file in fact) and restart instance.
Regards.
P.S.: Why do you want to enforce rule-based optimizer by the way?...

Can we determine path of my INIT.ORA file from data dictionary views.

Hello Guru’s
I am new to oracle, My question is for the sake of my knowledge: I work on oracle 10G.
Is there any data dictionary view from where I can get the path of my INIT.ORA file.
Regards,

NewDay wrote:
Hello Guru’s
I am new to oracle, My question is for the sake of my knowledge: I work on oracle 10G.
Is there any data dictionary view from where I can get the path of my INIT.ORA file.
AFAIK , its no. You can check the path from the show parameter command like following,
SQL> show parameter spfile
NAME TYPE
VALUE
spfile string
/u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0
/db_1/dbs/spfileorcl.ora
SQL>HTH
Aman....

How to establish a single init.ora file for 3 node RAC under ASM

All,
Our environment is a combination of several different memory sized SUN machines (V880, V490 & 250R).
Setting up a single init.ora file that encompasses each of the nodes memory into the SGA sizing is our desired setup.
Though we have established the file, the question is getting each NODE on the RAC to use that single parameter
file to start its database instead of taking the default init.ora file in the default (asm/dbs) directory.
As we have performed fail-over testing, upon the restart of instances they have restarted with wrong memory
definitions that have hung the nodes when it took more memory then what was available and swap space began
to grow.
Steps to configure and enable this process is what I am looking for.
Thanks
Gerry

Gerry,
Here's what we do. Not sure if it is relevant to your situation ...
(on each node)
$ cat $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/initrac11d1.ora
SPFILE='+DATA/rac11d/spfilerac11d.ora'
(in ASM)
$ asmcmd
ASMCMD> ls -la +data/rac11d
Type Redund Striped Time Sys Name
Y CONTROLFILE/
Y DATAFILE/
Y ONLINELOG/
Y PARAMETERFILE/
Y TEMPFILE/
N spfilerac11d.ora => +DATA/RAC11D/PARAMETERFILE/spfile.267.685170285
The spfile has all parameters, qualified by node where applicable. For example :
$ sqlplus / as sysdba
SQL*Plus: Release 11.1.0.7.0 - Production on Wed May 6 19:00:45 2009
Copyright (c) 1982, 2008, Oracle. All rights reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle Database 11g Release 11.1.0.7.0 - 64bit Production
With the Real Application Clusters option
SQL> create pfile='/tmp/sb.ora' from spfile;
File created.
SQL> Disconnected from Oracle Database 11g Release 11.1.0.7.0 - 64bit Production
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$ cat /tmp/sb.ora
*.archive_lag_target=1800
*.audit_file_dest='/var/oracle/admin/rac11d/adump'
rac11d1.dispatchers='(address=(protocol=tcp)(host=msdbc11-vip)(port=64000))'
rac11d2.dispatchers='(address=(protocol=tcp)(host=msdbc12-vip)(port=64000))'
*.global_names=TRUE
rac11d1.instance_number=1
rac11d2.instance_number=2
rac11d1.undo_tablespace='UNDOTBS1'
rac11d2.undo_tablespace='UNDOTBS2'
Hope this helps,
Steve

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