Oracle 8i Lite Start up

Hi everybody,
I've windows/2000 pro installed on my m/c. The client version of it.
I'm using this m/c to surf the net and do some MS Acesses development and VB development. Now, I'm trying to do something with Oracle 8i Lite. I've received oracle 8i Lite Version 4.0.0.2.0 for Micorosoft Windows NT from Oracle corp in CD.
I installed this software in my machine.
When I had Oracle 7 a year or long back, after the installation, I had start and stop icons to start the database and stop to shut down the database, but oracle 8i is not like that.
Now, I dont know how to start or configure the oracle db, and access the db using sql*plus so that I can create some stored procedures and call them from Sql*plus.
Could somebody throw some ideas to understand this Oracle 8i lite version.
Regards,
Suresh
null

You will have to be a bit more specific about the error messages you get. Did you start the database and listener?

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    In terms of the sync process only downloading a particular users worksheet, this would be defined when you define the snapshots of the database tables you want to download, rather than the sync login process itself.
    For example - you have a table WORKSHEETS on the server that you want to download, it has a column EMP_NO which is the employee identifier. You would define the selection for the snapshot as
    select * from WORKSHEETS where EMP_NO=:emp_no (note the bind variable)
    when you then add users to the oracle lite application (actually the database), then you will have a parameter called EMP_NO to define with the employee number for that particular user, and this will be used automatically as the bind variable in the download.
    NOTE subsetting in this way does not need to be direct, for example things like
    select * from TASKS where id in (select task_id from user_tasks where emp_no=:emp_no) is perfectly valid
    NOTE when reading the forum and documentation, be careful of the word application. There are actually two different things to be developed, both normally called 'application'
    Within oracle lite you create an application with publication items, scripts, sequences etc. and then subscribe your users to this application. The application in this context is actually the database and synchronisation management ONLY (you can include files and code for download)
    The second application is your runtime code that has a user interface, functionality, processing and validation. This is written in some development platform, and accesses the database created above for select, insert, update etc.
    3) If I want to have the above system,
    a) I should have Oracle 10g Lite server installed(im Unix or Windows)
    YES this goes on the app server and installs a repository schema MOBILEADMIN within your database
    b) I should have Oracle 10g Lite client installed in a Windows PC/Laptop
    YES - once the server is set up, this is downloaded and set up by accessing the <server url>/webtogo/setup
    c) To get my custom application in My Mobile Device, first I have to deploy the application in Oracle 10g server using Oracle Mobile Server. Then I have to connect my Mobile Device to the Oracle 10g Lite server,
    and deploy the application in my Mobile Device using Oracle Mobile Manager.
    steps in outline are
    1) install server
    2) develop the oracle lite application (ie: database) and publish this to the mobile server (can use the development kit or java APIs for these two steps
    3) add a user with the relevant subsetting parameters
    4) set up oracle lite win32 client on the laptop from the server download
    5) synchronise using the msync utility on the client to create the databases and odbc entries
    6) develop your application code using the client database
    7) during development, then changes to database structure would be via changes and re-publish of the oracle lite application, followed by a sync to update the client database
    8) once all development is complete, the runtime application code can be bundled up into the oracle lite application if you want, and then the initial sync for live users will download the database and application code.
    4) I would like to do a POC before start the project.
    What are all the installations I have to do in my Laptop.(Consider I am installing Oracle 10g Lite server/client, Mobile Manager in my Laptop)
    You can set up a standalone server on the laptop, but better to do this on a development app server so you can use the main server development database as the data souce for the snapshot definitions (pretty easy install). there are conflicts if you try and put the oracle lite client and the mobile development kit on the same machine, but if you are familiar with java, the API development is fairly straightforward to use (i have developed applications in this, and i know only the basics of java) you do not need the MDK
    Basic for a POC i would say is to
    1) set up mobile server on development
    2) define a simple oracle ite application on two server tables. one has select * from table, and the other has select * from table where .... including bind variable. at this stage use complete refresh as the mode for simplicity
    3) publish the application, create user and define the subsetting variable
    4) set up mobile client and synchronise user. use the msql utility to interrogate the database and check the content, and do some updates 9standards SQL syntax)
    5) create simple appliaction code to conect to and read the database on the client
    6) do a sync after the updates above and check they appear in the server
    The above should be reasonably quick and proves
    a) ability to define the data you want to be sent to the users
    b) ability to create an app to manage the database running on the client device in you preferred software platform
    c) data download and upload
    after this basic POC, you can extend into defining fast refreshes to improve the efficiency of the sync process, managing the MGP process, developing a more comprehensive database and application etc. If you have complex joins between server table, you may also want to look at creating views to denormalise data and use these as the basis for the snapshots

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