Oracle ASM installation and raw device options

I am looking to install Oracle ASM on Linux Red Hat AS 4 (ia64) using Oracle 10.2.0.3.
A general question I have regarding prerequisites for ASM using raw devices. It appears there are 2 options for dealing with RAW devices.
1. Use the ASM library driver
or
2. simply bind the devices to raw devices (and then install a new $OH with an ASM instance)
Is there a recommendation from Oracle, industry best practices, expert opinions on which way to go?
If I understand correctly it sounds like option 2 will require an ASM $OH and instance. Is that right or do both option require this?
Can someone provide guidance as to which option I should use, an Oracle whitepaper, a recommendation, instructions or something.
Any help or insight is provided as to which option I should use.
Thank you.
echardrd

OK. Perhaps I am a little condused then. From what I read Oracle ASM recommends the use of RAW devices for ASM storage devices. What I have is a new LUN presented to my database server from the SAN. I assumed that the LUN needs to be mounted in some fashion on the server, but my SA tells me in order to mount it, would require the use of a filesystem. If we put a filesystem(NTFS, ext, etc) on the LUN prior to mounting it, will ASM be able to use it? If ASM can use a device that has a filesystem on it will this add unneccessary overhead (I/O)?
I guess my question is for ASM should I
1. use a RAW partition or a filesystem? Does it matter?
2. Will RAW have better I/O performance?
3. How do i make the LUN presentation from the SAN a usable RAW device to my database server? Any steps or guidance would be helpful since my SA and I can not seem to bridge this gap.
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Hi All,
I want to know how to check the space on asm device.
we are using asm device which is on raw partition.
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4 - 5 raw partitions...
What oracle version?
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790066 wrote:
Does ASM support for BLOCK raw device? or only there is support for CHARACTER raw device?As I understand, ASM needs to be able to open a device using the direct I/O call kernel interface. Old style block devices do not have that, thus the need for raw char devices (on top of a block device) to provide the required direct I/O interface.
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: I have been trying to get Oracle 8i on Linux and I feel that I
: must share
: my thoughts on the new Oracle installer with everybody.
: I hate the new installer. I used to run the installer from
: home over my
: 128Kbps connection while I was connected to the office
machines,
: because it
: was simple text based. And Oracle 8i has changed all that!
: I have nothing against GUI based installers, only when they
have
: a little too
: many animated images that eat up bandwidth. I had to drive all
: the way to
: the office because I did not have sufficient bandwidth to
display
: the darn
: ringing bell animated image. This is strictly the mentality of
: Windows users
: who like to work on the console of servers.
: And check this out:
: line 118 in my install log file at :
: /usr/local/oracle/u01/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActio
ns.log
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: platGroup = WINDOWS
: And this is on Linux!!! Maybe the Oracle folks are forgetting
: that Linux
: users are a little too sensitive to these kind of mistakes. :)
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: from Windows
: programmers. Who are not too familiar with the idea of being
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routines
: of Oracle
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