Oracle Forms 6i support

Do you know if Oracle Forms 6i are supported by Oracle? If yes, when Oracle will discontinue support? What are the implication of the discontinuation?
Thanks in advance,
Andrey.

One minor thing, 6i Forms is still supported IF running in the context of Oracle Applications - otherwise no (as already stated).
While your application may still be working fine, one of the issues is the fact you are lagging further abd further behind the latest certified software for the OS, teh database etc.
For anyone running their production data this may be a risk that can't be taken.
Regards
Grant Ronald

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begin
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from dual;
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========================
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I would like to ask to those Oracle employees (or personnel) how they justified the termination of the client-server runtime in Forms 9i?
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