Oracle License needed?

My daughter wants to use Oracle Spatial in her senior design project at UMASS Amherst. Does she need an Oracle license for this? If yes, is there a 'student/education' license available?
Thanks in advance,
Bob

I think it is free.
See here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/index.html
"All software downloads are free, and each comes with a Development License that allows you to use full versions of the products at no charge while developing and prototyping your applications (or for strictly self-educational purposes)."
I didn't go to the law school so I'm not sure.

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You really, really, really want to have this conversation with Oracle Sales. Nothing anyone says here is in any way authoritative-- if there is ever an audit, you really don't want to explain that some guy on the internet with a playing card logo next to his name said it was OK. The answer may depend on the country you're in, your existing license agreements, your ability to negotiate with Oracle, your desire to buy other Oracle products, how much your sales rep likes you, the phase of the moon, how close your rep is to making their quota, your astrological symbol, and dozens of other factors. In other words, any answer would need to be taken with a few hundred grains of salt.
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I'm using APEX 3.2 on a 10gR2 Database with an Oracle HTTP Server (Apache 1.3). In order to enable PDF generation within APEX, an OC4J standalone is needed according to PDF Printing in APEX:
[http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/configure_printing.html#05]
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hi %,
The official oracle reply:
Please find below additional information to OC4J licensing:
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+[http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/htdocs/utilsoft.html |http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/htdocs/utilsoft.html ]+
For example, the OTN program cannot be used for internal data processing or for any commercial or production purposes, or for any purpose except the development of a single prototype of your application.
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Oracle licensing in Solaris zones

Hi all,
I've read a few documents about Oracle licensing :
http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/consolidation/Containers_Oracle_041305.pdf
http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/partitioning.pdf
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Hi Dezutterm,
I'm not a sales guy, but from how I understand things... you've already figured it out yourself:
dezutterm wrote:
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2) count the number of physical cores that are being used by the zone. In this case this is 2, as the threads are not running on the same core.
Can anyone help me figuring this out?Like you've seen, Oracle cares about how many cores are running Oracle software, not threads (from "Processor" definition here: http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list.pdf). If you have 2 cores running Oracle software, you take "2" and multiple by the Core Processor Licensing Factor for that model of CPU (http://www.oracle.com/corporate/contracts/library/processor-core-factor-table.pdf) which for a T2 is 0.25... meaning you need 2 x 0.25 = 0.5 processor licenses. If you would have used both threads from the same core, you would need 0.25.
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2) Processor --> If you cannot determine the number of users
Is it the Oracle users which we are creating in Oracle?
(User name and password to log in to the ERP)Correct, total number of users defined in the system (not concurrent users).
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Can I use the same User ID to log in to the application from different desktops same time?
Is there any limitation on number of sessions that can open by a names user?You cannot just create one account and use it by different users; each user should have his/her own account.
If I am going for named user licensing How many user license I want to purchase
And I am looking for a lifetime license term Refer to the same document, under "How much software do we need to purchase now?" section.
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I have query regarding Oracle Licensing.
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We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your application, and not for any other purpose.
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>
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Hello every body,
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Hi,
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If we do not plan to upgrade the Oracle products and
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user11181920 wrote:
I agree with you. Mostly.
But most of you said is related to a price negotiation not a policy.
Of course price has to be discussed or negotiated with Sales Rep.
Of course an agreement that costs dozens of thousands should go via Legal department.
Of course no-one should refer to an advise taken from here as to a last instance of Truth or a Constitutional Law.
It is all obvious.What may be obvious to you may not be to others.
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But someone who does not know even basic licensing policies should read docs and get understanding of them before negotiating with Sales Rep.Yes, the faq too: http://www.orafaq.com/wiki/Oracle_licensing
Though it may have some out of date parts.
It will make this person better prepared for a negotiation, and also will make work of Sales Rep simpler - he/she does not have to explain those basic things to a customer.Sometimes they insist on explaining these things, even when they do not understand it themselves.
It will also increase level of trust. Clear understanding helps to create trust.One would hope. On the other hand, when they say I'll have to get back to you on that and then don't, does that help? All I can figure is some magic words, like Itanium, have magical properties. Maybe it breaks their price calculator app.
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Here we can help. We can give some recommendations what docs to read and help to get some understanding of things.
Of course we are not officially authorized for legal advices, I think everyone understands it. Who don't - I am sorry.Many people are unclear that this is a volunteer forum, not official Oracle policy, even though there is that red logo on the upper left of the screen. Yet Oracle still has to worry about liability issues for anything posted.
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Almost everything in the licensing policies is open to negotiation which, obviously, can only happen with Oracle Sales.Or vote with your feet.
Here I doubt that Sales Rep can change a policy. Can Sales Rep change Processor Core Factor? Or its definition? Or a definition of Named User Plus? Like declaring that for this particular customer we make it "Two Humans = One Named User Plus"? Like the used car salesman I'll have to check that with my sales manager.
Can Sales Rep change export/import rules?Rule #1: don't get caught. google FPCA with the name of your favorite company.
I doubt. Sales Rep has a vendor recommended price and limit for discount that he/she is authorized for. Also Sales Rep is trained for policies and how to apply these in different scenarios, but Sales Rep is not a policy makerOracle sales reps had their quotas boosted this year to impossible levels, which effectively gave many huge pay cuts.
And earlier:
I would disagree here. Why do you try to present Oracle's licensing policies overly complex that only sales rep can understand it?That is giving way too much credit to sales rep. The policies refer back and forth to different documents, which may change with the wind. It is overly complex.
Oracle does not make a secret from its licensing policy.How would you know? If everyone gets a special deal, there could be secrets all over the place. This is business, not consumer products. Always keep a local copy of policies found online.
It is quite clear, documented and published.Documented and published, yes. Clear? There are companies whose entire business plan depends on the lack of clarity and capriciousness, dealing with Oracle is an art, not science. Any published document may be changed at any time, George Orwell would be impressed.
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1) Now when it comes to the type of processor does it matter what type of processors they are ?
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johnpau2013 wrote:
I know Oracle Standard Edition ONE is only licensed to install on a server with a max of 2 processors.
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I am trying to perform an audit on an environment with many Oracle server installations in different regions, I am trying to find the best way to identify the following details for each installation:
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V$Options - Often wrong
V$dba_feature_usage_statistics - Often wrong
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More bad news it's not free ;(
We're called iQuate, take a look at iqute.com/oracle - doing this stuff for 8 years, with some former Oracle folks joining and giving us a focus on the Oracle space about 2 years back..
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Hello,
Is it possible to get the Oracle(10g) license# from the already installed DB.
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Edited by: Zerandib on Dec 10, 2008 9:16 AM

Zerandib,
Please check this link
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and oracle install doesn't require any license# or part# or code# to unlock. What you have is licensing agreement with Oracle on some terms (best known to your licensing/purcharing/IT dept) how your company will be using Oracle? But if your intent is to learn and educate yourself, you can download and install oracle for free. Once again Oracle software doesn't require any license or code# to install but an agreement for its Usage.
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