Oracle Open World in SanFrancisco and Oracle Spatial

Hi,
This week is Oracle Open World in San Francisco, and while usually we try to keep this message board strictly technical, I wanted to mention that there are some interesting things happening here.
There are a few sessions Wednesday in Room 2016 starting at 3:00 pm:
Data Management on a Budget with Oracle 10g: Exploring Strategies and Tactics with the U.S. Geological Survey
by Nate Booth and Harold House, USGS
Oracle Database 10g Spatial Performance and Manageability Best Practices and German Rail Case Study
by Dan Abugov (me) and Andreas Hoefler, Fichtner Consulting & IT AG
I'm excited to be talking about Partitioning Best Practices, and we'll be posting the white paper here on OTN.
Finally, please come and see us at booth E28 in the Oracle DemoGrounds (we have Locator/Spatial, MapViewer, and Workspace Manager here in the pod). If you are the FIRST person to mention reading this posting on OTN when you visit the booth, we'll be happy to give you a copy of "Pro Oracle Spatial", the first book devoted to developing applications using Oracle Spatial. The book was written by Ravi Kothuri, Albert Godfrind (two Oracle Spatial Developers) and Euro Beinat of Geodan NL. One of the authors (Albert Godfrind) is here, and if you ask I'd bet he'd autograph it for you!
We also have a very limited supply of the book we'll be giving out over the course of the conference.
Of course, everyone who stops by will get the Oracle Spatial mini CD which includes viewlets, white papers, and more.
The book is also available here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593839/qid=1102358585/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9450919-8639226?v=glance&s=books

Hello,
Take a look at this page, http://www.oracle.com/technology/events/oracle-openworld-2007/index.html
There are links here to the whole OOW (social network,twitter,blog/flicker)osphere I think the new buzzword being "Social Graph" that covers all that.
But anyway there are tons of ways for people to sign up and track the sessions and see who's going to go where, etc.
Regards,
Carl
blog : http://carlback.blogspot.com/
apex examples : http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=11933:5

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How to install and configure spatial web services (sdows.ear) of Oracle 11g R1 (Version 11.1.0.6.0) on Web Logic Server (Version 10.3.3.0)?

I need to deploy location based service (Directory Service and Route Service). My database is in Oracle 11gR1 (Version 11.1.0.6.0). The application is deployed on Weblogic Server (Version 10.3.3.0).
When I try to deploy the sdows.ear file, I get the error regarding class (oracle.spatial.ws.logger) definition not found.
The examples \ tutorials that I have found are either for deployment of sdows.ear on OC4J Application Server or they correspond to Oracle 11gR2 database based sdows.ear deployment on Weblogic
Server. As I am new in this field and inexperienced developer, I am unable to understand the causes of such error.
May I humbly request for the solution at the earliest.
Thanking you in anticipation.
regards,
GVJ

Hi,-
Sorry about the late reply.
We have patches for 11.2.0.3 and 12.1.0.1 database versions.
Please let me know if they will work for you.
Thanks

Oracle Open World in SanFrancisco and Oracle Spatial

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