Oracle RAC on Solarais Configuration Issue

Hi,
We are trying to install Oracle RAC 10g R2 on Solaris 10.
Following are the products
1=> Soalris 10 OS
2=> Sun Cluster 3.1
3=> Veritas Volume Manager
4=> Veritas Cluster File System
Can i deploy Oracle RAC using the above listed Software.
Here we have not purchase any of the Cluster Volume Manager.
Is the CVM required to install Oracle RAC.
Is there any alternative wherein we can install Oracle RAC without using CVM like for example using the RAW device where the VM will manage storage from a single node rather than buying the CVM that will allow to manage the storage from multiple nodes.
Also i would like to highlight is suggestion for using ASM is rule out hence ASM would not be used.
Can anyone suggest me some solution to the above problem.

Well, my impression is that you don't really know what your requirements are and you are trying to fit the technologies somehow. Worse yet, there is no clear understanding how those technologies fit together and as long as you explain what your vendor is saying you (which vendor?) they don't have clear idea either.
I would also suggest to review your decision to use Sun Network Data Replicator for DR site. Consider Oracle Physical Standby database instead - it's more flexible solution and doesn't limit your choice of storage stack.
1) Do Oracle RAC 10gR2 requires any Veritas Cluster Volume Manager
Words "any" and "Veritas" contradict in your question. But the answer is no. RAC require shared storage which can generally be one of those:
- raw devices with or without some kind of cluster volume manager
- cluster file system
- NAS storage (NFS mounted)
- ASM with raw devices for CRS files (OCR and voting disks)
2) Does Oracle RAC 10g R2 require any Vertias Cluster File System or it can sit on normal Vertias File System
Again, Oracle database files MUST reside on shared storage and non-clustered file system is not an option.
3) Is there any solution where we can use the Sun Cluster with Veritas Componets to configure RAC.
If I recall correctly, Sun Cluster includes in it's license some of component of Veritas storage stack. So you might be all set. You should turn to documentation on that stage and see exactly what you have licensed and if your stack allows shared storage. You might want to have a look at http://www.sun.com/software/whitepapers/solaris10/solaris_cluster.pdf
and Oracle Certification Matrix on Metalink.

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    I will configure Clustering Solution like VRTS/SunCluster in Active-Passive, then have 3 Oracle installations on Node A, another 3 on Node B. As I said before, these 3 Oracle installations will actually all be on the same Global Zone, because RAC will not go into Local Zones.
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