Oracle Still Supports Forms 4.5/5.0?

I understand that Oracle will no longer support Forms 6i after 2006 (or 2008 with Extended Support). How about old Forms 4.5/5.0? When will Oracle de-support Forms 4.5/5.0 applications? I need this information to make decisions on migrations.
Thanks.
-ruo

Forms 5.0 is no longer supported at all.
Forms 4.5 is out of normal error correction support and is currently in Extended Assistance Support until 31-Dec-2003.
Extended Assistance support means:
* Answers to customers' questions
* Assistance with migration plans to a supported platform and/or product
* Workarounds, where possible
But does not include:
* Error Correction Support (ECS) - No new bug fixes
* Backporting of fixes
* Certification with supported products, newer operating system versions or new compilers
* Escalation support, response time adherence and skill availability
This information is available through the Certify utility on Metalink

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