Oracle Workshop II LVC  for OCP Certification Price

Hi all ,
here is a serious question that Customer Service from France,UK or the US can not answer me , I call them all but no answers!!!!.
It's been a year since I got my Oracle OCA certification. thinking about getting the OCP; I looked at the requirement and choose to go on for the Administration Workshop 2. this class if in the US will cost $3000 for the instructor led-training or LVC (live virtual class).
1) I do understand that according to the country where the exam is taken the price tag is different.. exple: France 2950€≈4000$ , for the instructor led training..
therefore been a little surprise I look for the LVC because why traveling or moving if I can take it on-line. did a little search and found that for the same training(Administration Workshop 2 LVC) if I select Romania as my home country ,for the LVC training the price is 3,200 RON==> 1,056$ , with different schedules and languages available for the trainer......
so living in France I can just go ahead and register for that LVC training with the trainer language of my choice ,this having Romania as my home country ,pay the fees of 1,056$ , take my training online and therefore satisfied for the hands on course requirement ????????
If any one can tell me please do so??? thanks in advance.
ps: I'm just a student having hard time to afford that training and thus searching for ways to make it.. thanks Cyrille

user647922 wrote:
because let say I only understand English and I live permanently in France , .....ce n'est pas bon, mon ami, vous pourrait être pris pour un tour!!! ;-)
More seriously I don't think there has been any issues with people going to a different country to do training. Indeed some people will have had to have done it because it was not offered or was not offered at a convenient time in their own country.
However Oracle charges differently for the same course in different contries, and differently for different locations in the same country. At least a proportion of this relates to the expense cost of the location, and some probably relates to an acceptable price point for the country in question.
Obviously some have done it for economic reasons; and i have seen training offered by companies on this basis.
Lets take a example, lets say bigdelboy decides to take a dataguard course. He looks at the price for London UK and he looks at a price for Bangalore India.
Now the price in India is about 1/3 of that in London. however for bigdelboy there's the airfare to think about, the travel to think about, bigdelboy might have to consider travel innoculations and hotels and not knowing the area, and no logistical chance of a satisfaction guaranteed repeat and maybe even a visa to think about. (Whereas perhaps for bigdelboy's work colleague 'Fred' who is native to India and has family in Bangalore has a different cost/risk/benefit consideration).
(Thereagain if bigdelboy was prepared to take 4 * 5-day course consecutively the cost/risk/benefit might be different .... mind you one 5 day course at a time is enough to make the head throb).
Overall students will occasionally squeal about this but most can appreciate (at least to some extent) different pricing in different countries.
However with LVC's this looks a little different.
Obviously LVC's are priced similarly to real classes.
Obviously if I could buy an LVC from Bangalore at 1/3 the price of one from London while sitting in the parchment makers supping a lemonade then I'd probably go for the LVC from Bangalore!
Anyway this would drive a big torpedo through the Oracle University cost model and cause a lot of fall out.
- I've never taken one but would probably be concerned about it being less effective than classroom training.
There are probably some other good reasons for keeping an LVC within country though, these may IMHO include:
- Trainer would typically have more empathy with the country's culture.
- Less risk of internet delays / disruption to individual class members.
- Possibly issues with payments for services between countries.
Quite frankly IMHO Oracle University have little option but to impose this LVC from within country rule to seriously disrupting their training organisation or seriously increasing prices in some countries. In fact if they were forced to drop this rule they might well be forced to discontinue LVCs.
Basically the business people at Oracle University are not totally stupid and have calculated that if the allow people 'residing' (whatever that is defined as) in high cost counties to take LVC's delivered low cost countries they are likely to have significant problems and they will ensure this does not happen. I suspect people trying to circumvent this could have their course stopped and course fees foreit.

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    RedDeuce wrote:
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    ukupatil wrote:
    Hi,
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    Few ways....
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