Ordering WCS

I'm working with a customer that has several WLC in place and working already. They now want to get a WCS server with location services in place. Does the licensing strictly depend on the number of APs in use, not the number or type of WLCs?
For a linux server, the part number I want is AIR-WCS-LL-1.0-K9, isn't it? Does that part number include any AP licenses? And the additional APs are licensed in multiples of 50, 100, and 500, correct?
Thanks!

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We are planning to get 2x Enterprise WCS servers to be running on High Availability for 600 APs.
Understand that the Enterprise WCS License allows us to “load share” the license between multiple servers.
Should the top-level part number (WCS-ENT-PLUS-K9) be chosen as qty 1 or qty 2?
WCS-ENT-PLUS-K9 Family SKU for WCS Enterprise PLUS License Products 2 USD -
WCS-ENT-PLUS-1000 Cisco WCS Enterprise PLUS License for 1000 APs,Windows/Linux 2 USD 80,245.00
CON-SAU-WENTP1K SW APP SUPP + UPGR Cisco WCS Enterprise 2 USD 16,049.00
CON-SAU-WENTK9 SW APP SUPP + UPGR Family SKU for WCS E 2 USD -
I refer to the URL:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5755/ps6301/ps6305/product_data_sheet0900aecd804b4646.html
If you are a NEW Cisco WCS customer with an enterprise deployment and want single device Location tracking, High Availability, and support for 1000, 2500, 10000, or 50000 access points, order WCS-ENT-PLUS-K9 and one of the Cisco WCS PLUS options below:
WCS-ENT-PLUS-1000: License supports up to 1000 access points.

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Hi,
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deployment.
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While doing the above are facing any issues with losing the config-group list?? Make sure we are pushing the template first and then the config-groups.
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0
0,00
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N/A
1
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0
0,00
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1
0,00
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0
0,00
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1
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0
0,00
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N/A
14 days
No
N/A
3
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
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NoteBefore adding the licenses that are migrated from your WCS installation, apply the L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 license. The licenses migrated from WCS are generated as “ADD” licenses, and you cannot apply them unless you apply the L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 license.
L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 is the Product Number to do the upgrade from WCS 7.0 to NCS 1.0, R-WCS-PI11-M-K9 is the product number to dothe upgrade from WCS 7.0 to NCS/PI 1.1.
If I try to install just the License File I get from Cisco using the XML file from our WCS 7.0 installation, I get the error "Unable to add any license without an NCS (L-NCS-1.0-K9) license.".
But how do a get this license if I ordered R-W-PI12-M-K9 (WCS 7.0 to PI1.2 Upgrade License)? What is the step to get the right License?
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Best regards,
Hans

Hello Joe,
no. The information in the deployment Guide (the link i proveded before) is wrong.
You still need to follow the upgrade path WCS 7.0 -> NCS 1.1 (here you have to use for example 1.1.1.24, because 1.1.2.12 cannot be upgraded to PI 1.2), then you can upgrade NCS 1.1 to PI 1.2 (if you upgraded the WCS to NCS 1.1.1.24 you need to install a patch ncs_patch-1.1.1.24-upgrade-12.gz, for other 1.1 releases you need a different patch).
The major problem was the licensing. Because with the order of the Upgrade Licenses from WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 I got "normal licenses", for PI 1.2, a Base License and Lifecycle Licenses (the number of Lifecycle Licenses matches the number from the order).
Because we ordered the WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 Upgrade Licenses I also ordered the NCS Appliance with the PI 1.2 (before I thought a direct upgrade from WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 should be possibel, why not, if you can order the licenses with the description Upgrade License WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 :-)). So I had to downgrade the NCS Appliance to NCS 1.1. After the downgrade the NCS Appliance came up without any licenses. So the major porblem was that I could not use the PI 1.2 licenses (they are not installable on NCS 1.1). So I got a demo/temporary license from Cisco for NCS 1.1 to do just the migration. After the final upgrade to PI 1.2 I installed the base and the lifecycle licenses and now everything is fine.
Best regards,
Hans

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