Org Model & Authorization group
Hi gurus,
Can someone tell me:-
1) What is the purpose of the Org Model?
2) I need to assign Auth. Group to certain roles. Since i am more of a functional person, do I need to get the help of the basis guy to do the assigning?
3) Would the positions in the Org Model affect the assigning of roles elsewhere?
Hi Noobie,
Org model is used to map the org structure of your customer in SAP.
This is also used to divide the functions & task that a person is responsible in Org structure.
If you consider SAP scenarios like Sales , service & marketing, you would like to know the no of activties or oportunities or orders a particular branch or department has done or is responsible for.
So every transaction document will have a org data profile assigned to it which detrmines which org unit is reposnible for the transaction. Like for an business activity, you would like to know which org is responsible for the activity based on the Business partner or which service org unit is repsonible for the servicing the client if a particular BP has called.
And yes definitely position helps you determine the person in specific who would be responsible from the org unit for the transaction.
Hope this would help or you could check the org strucutre in help.sap.com
thanks and regard
Srini
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Any Org unit created in the Org model will be created as BP and you can give the number range.
What i suggest is go to best practises in help.sap.com and select C02_BB_Configurationguide_en and this has the details how you can give the number range and grouping.
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Kindly advise and oblige.
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I have an issue while creating org model, I want to maintain organization for sales and service differently under a org unit, but in service org element when I have selected service radio button and type also as service in Function tab, it is effecting for all units, even the first org unit is also changing automatically to service.
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I tried replicating what you have mentioned in your message and it is behaving exactly the same as in your case. So I dont think it will have any impact on your root org unit.
Dont tick mark any of the options i.e sales organization,Sales office or sales group for your root unit.Just create one org unit and leave as it is by saving.
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Org Model determination for BP
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regards,
DhruvSir,
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Also I need more understanding of what you have suggested: "*If you want to buidl some logic also on those, one possible way would be to read relationships between then. For example you would read the linked org.unit to sales group org. unit. And then it would be up to the coding, what you want to do with it." -
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2. Can additional attributes be assigned to the org model in R/3, e.g. Transaction type or would this additional data need to be maintained directly in CRM?
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Thanks for the information. My doubt is whether is it possible to replicate the same to ECC or vice verse i.e can you assign sub group to Sales group and replicate to CRM as it is?
Also I need more understanding of what you have suggested: "*If you want to buidl some logic also on those, one possible way would be to read relationships between then. For example you would read the linked org.unit to sales group org. unit. And then it would be up to the coding, what you want to do with it." -
hi,
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thanks
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Right click on the Position and select 'Assign' -Select UserIf you are unable to see the users Then try following work around,
Check the Organizational Management set up
Path:SPROMaster DataBusiness Partner --Set Up Integration with Organizational Management.
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3. Activate the integration between business partners and employees by setting the switch HRALX/PBPON to 'ON'.
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b) Number is taken from the special internal interval for the object.
c) Number is taken from HR and given a prefix. A special external interval is used, which has to be defined as XX00000000 to XX99999999, where XX stands for any two letters.
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BP number is missing for org units in org model
Hi Guys,
I have created org model in PPOCA_CRM and saved it CRM7.0. But BP numbers did not get generated for org units which I have created.
Can any one suggest me what is the reason and what needs to be done in order to get BP numbers for already created org units in PPOCA_ CRM or PPOMA_CRM.
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NAKISA Org Modeler additional features
Hi Experts,
We have implemented NAKISA Org Modeler 4 SP 1. We would like to get insight on below mentioned points and if this can be achieved using standard or by enhancement.
1. Is there any preferred screen size to view Nakisa Org Modeler (Org Structure) ?
2. Is there a possibility to create Job and Job Family in Nakisa Org Modeler?
3. Nakisa Org Modeler has approval functionality, however there are no mail notifications available for user to communicate that the task is complete. Can we implement the mail feature?
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Jijeesh1) Not that I'm aware of.
2) Not in the standard product.
3) Not that I'm aware of.
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Stephen -
Org Modeler 3.0 : Can't load scenario
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I have tried it many times and there is also a create scenario button on the popup as well that looks like it just starts the process over. -
I have a simple Org model with only one sales org/distribution channel/division but I need to ensure I protect the dependencies on Sales Org ID that exist in various condition techniques that I will tranport from the Dev system.
I believe I have to a) set object lock in target system, b) run report RHMOVE50 to add new or changed org models components to my transport c) transport to target system and d) run report HRALXSYNC or CRM_COM_ORGMAN_BUPA_INTEGRATE to generate the required BP Org UnitsHi Naaven
You have to create a Number Range and Business Partner Group for organizational units.
The ID of the Number Range and BP Group have to be the same for example "Z1".
Then you have to go to IMG >Customer Relationship Management>Master Data>Business Partner> Integration Business Partner-Organization Management> Set Up Integration with Organizational Management.
Enter de Following values:
Group Sem.abbr. Value abbr Description
HRALX HRAC X Activate HR Integration
HRALX OBPON ON Integration O-BP Activated
HRALX ONUMB 2 Business Partner Number Assignment (Org. Unit)
HRALX OSUBG Z1 Business Partner Subgroup (Organizational Unit)
Hope this helps
Sussie -
Org Modeler 3.0 SP2 error with creating scenarios
Hi Gurus,
In the the application Nakisa OrgModeler , version 3.0 SP2
and the build number: 0702013100, the solution is .Java, Oracle
We are having a problem with the org modeler scenario creation.
Even at a choice "Create empty model".
Steps pass successfully:
Number of records validated ok
Database created ok
And on a step process hangs:
Importing data...
I have been seeing several things in the CDS log:
ERROR com.nakisa.Logger - com.nakisa.framework.language.LanguageContainer.getText(String, String) : while trying to invoke the method java.util.HashMap.get(java.lang.Object) of an object returned from java.util.Map.get(java.lang.Object)
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Our DB connection string looks simple and test connection/create structure work fine.
Server Type: Oralce
Version: 10
Server Name: hcm****:1111:DHN
User Name: NAK_ORGMOD
Password: **********
And i have authorization in Database to create tabels.Hi Tatyana,
Please take a look at this thread from last year, which has the same issue as you had and was resolved.
[http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10718321#10718321]
Best regards,
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