Org Structure Replication

Hi,
I am interested in finding out what replication method people use to maintain the SRM (SRM 5.0 and ECC 6.0) org structure.
Once the SRM org structure is created via RHALEINI , do you continue executing RHALEINI with the correct options on a nightly basis to maintain or synchronize the SRM org structure or do you use the ERP change documents for the HRMD_ABA message type and only replicate the deltas?
Since both methods work, is there a recommended method?
Thanks,
Jerry

We are still on SRM 4 but my guess is that this process hasn't changed. My experience has been that most customers will work from Delta updates once the structure has been initially created, especially when CUA (Central User Admin) is used to manage change in HR.
In our case we run nightly jobs - in R/3 the job contains program RBDMIDOC, which processes Change Pointers created from HR updates and creates IDocs. Following this in SRM we runa job that contains RBDMANI2, whcih processes the IDocs in SRM and updates the Org Structure. These two programs relate to HRMD_ABA. And finally we run HRALXSYNC (this one is still a mystery to me - it doesn't seem to do anything - another story).

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