Org structure Transport

Hi Gurus,
I have created some org positions and assigned business roles to positions in our dev org structure and trying to move this into QA with RHMOVE50. The positions are comming accross ok, However the business role assignement is not getting transported accross.
Am I missing something? Your help will be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Sam

Hi Gnana,
Thanks for you response, I have looked at the notes and implemented the suggested table entries.
Before I made the table entries I had observed that the transport(Using RHMOVE30) will remove user assignments in the target system.
If I need to transport just the business role assignment to a position, What options should I select for the delta using RHMOVE30?
Thanks for your help.
Regard,
Sam

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Tomas Linhart wrote:
> thanks for answer, I guess that's the best way of handling such situation. I'm going to creat custom table holding position used in workflow mapped to real position ID from org.structure. Or more generally, holding WF post mapped to org.structure type (position, job, ...) with corresponding ID in org.
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