Organiser Keyword tags

Prior to PE11, the Organiser showed Keyword tags for e.g. Places, Events, People.
In PE11, the People keyword is gone, replaced by a 'People tag' system which is not appropriate for the way I work. (My keyword sub-categories did not usually identify specific people).
I would much prefer to revert to the system where 'People' is just another Keyword tag, along with Places, Events etc. Can this be done?
Any help would be appreciated.
(There are large numbers of images involved)

If you upgraded the catalog from your previous version during installation of PSE11 your tags for People, Places and Events should have been imported.
You can continue creating new keywords and assigning to one of those three categories.
Also you may need to adjust your settings. From the media browser, make sure the tag panel is selected rather than information and then click the menu:
View >> Show People in Tag Panel

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I have a similar situation. In upgrading from Elements 7 to 11 all my keyword tags are lost; both in the keyword panel and the tags on each of my imported pictures. I didn't install the Elements 11 I had a tech do it when I took my computer in for other issues, so I'm not sure of any of the specific steps taken when this was done. Any way to get these back short of "tagging" each picture again?
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Cannot organise new tags alphabetically. PS Elements 11.

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Move categories/directory from the keyword tag to the event/place/people tags

I just upgraded to PSE 12. So now all my organisation folders are under the "keyword" tag. And I have a lot of them. Of course they are organized in folder/subfolders. And the main ones are "places" "events". The same as the default ones in pse.
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I have the same problem. I have had it since PSE 11 but didn't understand why I had two places for persons. I have the same problem with PSE 12 too and now I understand that the problem is there because I upgraded an english PSE 10 to a swedish PSE 11 (and later PSE12).
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I use LR 2.7. I want to copy one file from one drive to another drive with the same file name. I thought you could drag the file, but it doesn't copy over the file in the other drive, can you explain what I have to do?
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Ciao!
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Keyword tags text box poorly designed, crashes PSE 8

I was very interested to see that PSE 8 allows you to enter keyword tags using a text box, as other programs do, promising much faster tagging with large sets of tags. But the feature has serious bugs rendering it unusable.
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Is the white triangle to the left of "Keyword Tags" pointing down or pointing to the right? See this screen shot:
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Keyword Tags Won't Delete

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Is it possible in settings... or somewhere, to set it so that when you open (PrE9's) organizer instead of starting with keyword hierarchy list - it could open on keyword cloud view? I am not so keen on the hierrarchy method...
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I did some experimenting in the Elements 9 Organizer.
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No importing needed.
See these instructions: Use Backup, Restore to move catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 or later

Use of Keyword tags in shared photo files

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To be able to Export Keyword Tags to Excel or as a CSF file

I am using PSE 10 in Windows 7 environment. Have thousands of photos and hundreds of Keyword tags and many Categories and Sub-Categories.
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Thank you all for your help. I have solved my problem - with your help. Solution was simple:
Save the Keyword Tags as the XML file from the drop down arrow options of the Keyword Tags. Saved it on desktop - but I guess you can save it anywhere you want. Opened MS Excel. Click File/ Open and Selected the XML file saved earlier. In the Dialogue Box that opens up, selected the "As an XML table" option. In the next dialogue box, showing "The specified XML source does not refer to a schema. Excel will create schema based on the XML source data.", clicked OK button.
Excel now creates the table and it filles the schema as the Column names. I deleted the columns that I don't need - most of these are values expressed in hex or some other numbering system. I kept FIVE columns that have the Keyword Category and the Tags names -
tagset-item-value-name
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tagset-item-value-note
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Hope this helps others. And, again, thank you for your help.

HELP Keyword Tags - Photos do not appear under Keyword

At the moment I am just trying to get my head round how the LR works and I am looking at the Library.
I'm using Windows XP.
I have imported a few hundred photos and they can clearly be seen in two folders that replicate the actual folders on the hard disk.
I have assigned a number of keywords to these photographs. However, when I want to see the photographs allocated to a particular keyword nothing appears. I get a note just above the Film Strip that says something like:
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LR obviosly knows that ### photos have been assigned to the selected keyword but it does not display them. I've spent hours trying to get this working and before the men in white coats come and drag me away can somebody please give some indication where I'm going wrong.
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I guess I have'nt played with it as much as you have, and you don't use keywords. Doesn't make sense, though keywords should be context sensitive to search a Collection or Folder rather than only all photographs. More powerful selective searching that way.
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How Do I Sort a Group of Photos on the Same Page with the same Keyword Tag?

I want to group similar photos on the same page with the same keyword tag. I have tried dragging and dropping without any success. Can anyone help?

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> I can delete keywords from individual photos but if more than on photo is highlighted, the keyword is removed from the first file only. Is this a bug or am I missing something?
You must be doing it in something other than the grid view. If so, then the this behavior is correct.

How do I find photos without a keyword tag?

How do I find photos without a keyword tag?
And by the way a further question regarding keyword tags remains unanswered...Why is there a difference between the number next to the keyword and the actual index number in the keyword folder?

I will try and explain in more detail to ensure we don't talk past each other.
I'm in "Catalog" and "All Photographs" is highlighted.
I selected to show the "Index Number" under "Library View Options".
In "Keyword List" I have main keywords such as Europe, Africa and Asia with no number to the right of it.
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Next to Spain there is now showing the number 46.
I open "Spain" by clicking on the arrow to the right of the number.
Now all the photos with the Spain tag is shown but there are only 23 photo. Under Portugal there is 80 shown but only 40 photos is shown. Under Ireland the keyword only 11 is shown but once open there are 1132 photos.
There is not one keyword with the correct number next to it.
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