Organiser Too Slow - Lightroom 3 as Alternative?

I purchased Elements 9 last year, and one of the things I've always struggled with is the slow Organiser speed.  From the time I click the organiser button on the splash screen to the time that Organiser becomes responsive to any mouse clicks (it's showing the hourglass during this time) is a whopping 4 1/2 minutes.  Worse, I can't even task swap to other applications (eg Firefox which is already running) while Organiser is starting. IMHO, that's pretty unacceptable, and I'd like to find if there's something fundamentally wrong.  I don't have older versions of Elements loaded, and I have loaded updates for 9.0.3.
My notebook is a Dell Latitude D830, with a Intel Core2 T7500 CPU, 3 Gb Ram.  Win XP SP3. Plenty of free hard disk available on 2 partitions.  No network access to photo files - all stored locally on HDD.
I've had a browse around this forum and other forums which have comments about Organiser speed, and there seems to be no easy fix.
So if there's no easy fix, does anyone have any experience using Lightroom as an alternative to Organiser?  Does it integrate well with Elements?  I'd like as detailed an answer as possible - I don't want to shell out more of my hard earned dosh on LR3 if it's not going to provide the functionality and ease of use that Organiser should.

You will definitely like Lightroom if you shoot in raw. I rarely have to use PSE, except for the more artistic stuff and for adding text etc. But then it’s so easy (Ctr+E from Lightroom Library) to export a PSD or tif from the raw file which includes all the adjustments already made in Lightroom.
Lightroom 4 can’t be that far off and that would be a good time to purchase if you are also planning to upgrade your computer. In the meantime why not download the 30 day free trial and see if you like the program.
By the way there is a separate Lightroom forum if you have any more questions.
http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom
 

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    q 55 0xc27 -Rrw-rw-rw- topx topx topx topx 0 0 2097152 0 0 no-entry no-entry 8:28:14
    q 54 0xbb8 -Rrw-rw-rw- topx topx topx topx 0 0 2097152 172 9066 10:47:08 10:47:08 8:28:14
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    T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NSEMS OTIME CTIME
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    s 103 0xa8c --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:36:20 8:36:20
    s 102 0xd48 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:36:20 8:36:20
    s 101 0xce4 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:36:20 8:36:20
    s 100 0x26de --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 8 10:19:34 8:28:14
    s 99 0xc1c --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:36:20 8:28:14
    s 98 0xbb8 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:43:50 8:28:14
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    s 96 0xa28 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 500 8:36:20 8:28:14
    s 95 0x7ee --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1 8:36:20 8:28:14
    s 94 0x7e4 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 1001 8:36:20 8:28:14
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    s 92 0x7d5 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 200 12:05:15 8:28:14
    s 91 0x7d0 --ra-ra-ra- topx topx topx topx 200 8:56:42 8:28:14
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    http://www.unix.com/solaris/189945-application-running-too-slow-sun-sparc-t5440-but-run-normal-sun-m3000.html
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    Poor forum etiquette.
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