Organizer vs Bridge

i have PSE 7 for my pc but am thinking of getting a mac. i really like the organizer in pse for windows but the pse8 for mac does not have the organizer. i believe Bridge replaces the organizer but i am not sure. Does anyone know? If bridge is the mac replacement for organizer for pc, does anyone know how they compare and if the catalog that i created in organizer is transferable to bridge. Thanks

While they do some of the same things they are quite different: organizer is an asset management program while bridge is a deluxe browser. Bridge keeps no database; it just shows you the current state of the folder to which you point it, so it doesn't care what you do with your photos outside of bridge. Bridge can't create stacks, and in PSE 8 lacks several of the things you can do with organizer: no direct connection to photoshop.com, no online print ordering, no slideshow editor, etc. However, you do get the full PS version of the raw converter there. Bridge can create stacks; it can't create versions. Bridge uses metadata keywords instead of the proprietary tag system used by organizer, so bridge-assigned keywords can be read by many programs on either platform.
Most mac folks who would use organizer already use iphoto or something, so if PSE/mac had organizer they would wind up double managing their photos and trouble would probably result.
EDIT To transfer your tags, write them to the files before exporting the photos to the mac. You will need to make tags for albums and categories, too, if you want to keep them. In bridge you can create subkeywords and reestablish your hierarchies, if you decide to use bridge. iphoto, aperture, spotlight, etc, can all read metadata. Note that writing tags to files has some limitations (doesn't work with raw, for instance), so try it first to be sure it works for you.

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Lightroom versus PhotoShop Elements Organizer and Bridge

This is directed to the Adobe Developer Team
I hope someone of the Developer team is reading this!!
For my understanding the three products out of one house (PhotoShop Elements Organizer, Bridge and Lightroom) doing about the same, should ...
work the same (same idea, same behaviour, organizing by path/subfolders instead of cataloges etc.)
maintain the same database and files (LR should recognize the collections from BR and Vice Versa, use the same cache files etc.) and should
be compatible to each other (e.g. Tags, Collections etc)
Actually I suggest ADOBE
to eliminate Organizer and integrate the good functions into BRIDGE (e.g. albums, upload to flickr, webpage generation etc)
give BRIDGE as the free of charge picture organizer to PS Elements and to PS CS
change LIGHTROOM into an payable upgrade of BRIDGE with enhanced functionality of the free of charge BRIDGE, (which can work as a stand-alone software as it does today
better integration of PSE, PS CS into Bridge/Lightroom (e.g. Panaorama function opens only PS CS but the version of PSE works much better, so I want to choose in the menu of Bridge/Lightroom)
I am really struggling with the three of them.
Beside that I suggest to get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom with it's import/export and synchronization needs and instead use or at least integrate the idea of BRIDGE to get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders, as this is anyhow how the way pictures are stored already for most of us... I asume. I doubt that anybody just throw all files into one big subdirectory and get the organized into cataloges. But please keep collections as they are helpful to quickly collect some pictures to commonly work on them. by drag & drop. The Catalogues of LR drives me crazy but LR have a lot of nice functions (e.g. Webupload interfaces to flickr and others, nice noice reduction, nice albums and webpage functions, etc.)
Thanks
Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year
Georg
PS: Please all of you comment your experience and opinion on this matter ... I am interested what you think about it.

Hi George,
Whereas Bridge and Photoshop Elements (and most non-LR users) base their organisation on the file / folder structure, Lightroom uses files / folders simply for storage - the catalog is used for organisation. This 'catalog based approach' provides far more flexibility, both in organisation, and in recording a complete, fully-reversible record of all edits made to each photograph.
To suggest that Adobe "get rid of the Catalog idea of Lightroom" and "get pictures structured and organized by path and subfolders" would remove almost ALL advantages Lightroom has over Bridge & PS Elements combined. To fully appreciate Lightroom, you need to appreciate that files and folders are not the only way to organise photos. Why not watch a few of the Adobe Lightroom Tutorial videos? This link below takes you to a video explaining about the Catalog;
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/george-jardine-on-lightroom/the-lightroom-catalog/
However, if you really want Adobe to hear your views, why not raise a Feature request with them, at this link below;
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
I'm sure if you call your feature request 'Remove Catalog from Lightroom, and organise by Folders instead', it'll get noticed, as will any forum posts of the same name...
Cheers,
Alan

Photoshop Elements Organizer and Bridge

Our small company has several Windows versions of Photoshop Elements 3.0 of which is primarily used for the Organizer to organize a collection of client images (all nicely tagged), however, the tags are incompatible with our Mac version of Photoshop CS3's Bridge (as such, the Mac is lagging behind the Windows-based organisation of Organizer, which is being prodiminantly populated by Organizer users).
We hoped the new Mac Photoshop Elements 8 would finally get around to shipping with the Organizer, but as it still doesn't, we wondered if it is was possible to install Bridge on the Windows machines in place of the Organizer? and could we import all our current Organizer settings?
Apaprently Bridge will work on a machine so long as other Adobe software is installed, which is fine for our Elements machines, but where can we download it?
Some help on this would be much appreciated.

I'm not sure you really understand the difference between Bridge and Organizer, which may or may not matter one way or the other. Bridge is a browser, not an asset management program, so it doesn't have a catalog. It just shows the files in the folder to which you point it. There are no version sets or albums in bridge, although you can make collections. The only way to get your current collections out of organizer would be to make tags for them and write them to the files, then reassemble the collections in bridge by keyword searching.
The upside to a program like bridge is that it doesn't care where or how you move your files around. You can do whatever you want when bridge isn't running and it won't complain that it can't find things anymore.

How to migrate Photoshop Elements Organizer to Bridge

Can anyone point me to a resource or give instruction to guide me on how to migrate my PSE Organizer catalog into Bridge CC?

Please find my comments inline with the question:
1) Can this be done? : Yes this can definately be done. To do this you need to take backup on Mac and restore on Mac. This will ensure all media,tag,album and their association remaining intact. For details on how to, please refer: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/elementsorganizer/using/WS3d021fd412237a2f14afb0171392eec10c6- 7ffe.html
2). For sync with Revel: Elements Organizer11, provides you to import/export media to/fro Revel client (on both Win and Mac). I would suggest to downaload a trial version and see for yourself if it suits your purpose.
Please let me know if you need more info on it.
~Andromeda

Organizer- Not Bridge on Mac PSE version 9

I have updated my classroom iMacs with Photoshop Elements version 9. And now I have Organizer rather than Bridge (as in version 8).
And I hate it.
Q.1 Can I (and my students) buy and use a version of Bridge that can work with PSE 9 from Adobe?
Q.2 If not, how can I at least do two things:
A. Show all my images on the screen with the file name rather than the date ????? I want the names of the images in the folders under the images.
B. Open the image in PSE (for editing) when I click on the image in Organizer (rather than a 3 step process).
There are some nice, new feature in PSE 9 for Macs --- but Organizer is NOT one of them.
Dick

My only real fear here is that Adobe will make Organizer the default with PS CS6 .....
That’s unlikely Dick; especially with the introduction of mini bridge in creative suite products.

Organizer v bridge

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Bridge has a ratings and Select Second etc. but filter only seems to work only inside a directory.
Really annoying since I had my widows files arranged by shoot date, with sub-dirs like original, work, final.
Now to find my favorites, I have to scroll through every dir and sub dir. What am I missing?
Hope there is something I'm overlooking, and this is not a feature.
Thanks
Bob Hagan

Tried that.
What organizer would do is show only those files that were marked with a particular label or rating. Didn't have to go into each directory/sub

Why when using Adobe Bridge, I apply a star rating, the rating does not show up in Photoshop Elements? [tags]

Why when using Adobe Bridge, I apply a star rating, the rating does not show up in Photoshop Elements. I use Elements as my organizer and Bridge to view as it is much more user friendly. Anyone any solutions??

Most likely you have set the wrong file as the external editor. You don't want the obvious one; that's just a link to the welcome screen. Go back and choose this one, which is hidden away inside the folder Support Files:

Organizer defect creates and leaves temporary files in the open directory.

I'm using Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer and Adobe Bridge CS6 concurrently. If I have Bridge open to the same folder as PSE Organizer and I do an "Add captions ..." operation to a group of files selected in the Organizer, then there is a very good chance that PSE Organizer will rename one or more files to OriginalFileName_edTMP-1.extension and leave the renamed file in the directory rather than completing the update and returning the file(s) to their original name. In most cases my original files are Nikon .nef files with .xmp sidecar files, but I've also seen this happen with .psd files. The .nef files are generally large, averaging 35 Mb per .nef image and the .psd files are usually over 100 Mb. If PSE Organizer and Bridge are open to different folders then Organizer does not leave the renamed file. Thus I would suggest that there may be a logical threading error in PSE Organizer where it does not consider that another application may be monitoring the folder and also opening the files, which is what Bridge does when it discovers that a file has changed (the addition of a caption changes the file contents.) This was also a defect in PSE Organizer 10.

I believe you missed the point. And just for the record I have 40+ years of software engineering experience and do know something about data bases and application programming. There is a defect in the Photoshop Elements Organizer and I suspect that one of the developers forgot to check a return code from an operation. I also suspect that what happens is that the Organizer temporarily renames the file it wants to update, makes the update, and then intends or tries to rename it back to the original name. But with Bridge running in the background and watching to see if there are any changes in the folder, Bridge sees the new file name and makes the file (or possibly the directory) temporarily unavailable to the Organizer as Bridge updates its information and the window display. If the timing of the operations is just right, the Organizer can't access what it needs to and probably gets a failed return code from the rename operation. If my supposition is correct, the code doesn't check this return code after the rename operation and just assumes that it took place. The problem is clearly related to timing (race condition) and is more likely to occur on large files, such as 100+ MB Photoshop files. Just for the record, I am not actually working with both Organizer and Bridge at the same time. Bridge is running in the background. I've learned to avoid the problem by pointing Bridge to a different folder when I do an update in Organizer. I also realize that information that I might add in Bridge does not show up in the Organizer Catalog, but fortunately Bridge is smart enough to extract tags and titles that I've added with the Organizer once Organizer has written them to the files. The problem that I'm reporting is not an issue about what a user should or can do, it's about safe programming practices. Adobe will decide if they want to fix it or not.

Moving from Adobe Bridge CS5 to Aperture 3

So I have been using Bridge since CS right through to CS5 for all my organising needs but I want something that is a little more organised in terms of photography requirements as my collection is getting larger and in need of higher organisation. I like the look of the workflow in Aperture 3. My only problem is that I would like to import the CRW raw files produced by my Canon SLR with the XMP sidecar files that contain all the adjustmenst to the image. There is no obvious way to do this in Aperture 3, is it possible? I have imported several collections and none of them have the adjustments applied to them in Aperture
Any help would really be appreciated.
Thanks

Unfortunately, it is not possible to utilize your ACR edits listed in the XMP file if you move to Aperture.
Basically, the issue is with the different companies design of RAW rendering which do not read each other's edits.
There is some support for DNG, but I would not recommend this path as there are a number of threads where users have had poor results. Apple's support for the format seems more like a stop-gap for users who purchase new cameras and may need to wait for the Camera RAW compatibility updates to be released for OS X before Aperture can recognize and render the RAW files.
I also moved to Aperture from a Bridge/ACR/Photoshop workflow and decided to simply backup my former work to an archive drive and then render all the images to JPEG for importing into Aperture. Since I am happy with the work I completed in the Adobe workflow, the JPEG renders fulfill my needs and Aperture allows enough tweaking of the images without degradation for future use.
All new images are of course either RAW or JPEG images imported directly into Aperture and I run a Managed library with all images inside the Aperture library package.
One other option you have (and that I thought about as well) is to keep the images in Finder folders and run a Referenced library where both Aperture and Bridge can access the files, but I personally saw no real benefit as Aperture offers the organization of Bridge and the non-destructive editing of ACR with a much nicer interface - IMHO.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you.

No Hopes for SMOOTH Video Playback in Adobe Bridge ?

Hi....
System Specs
MacPro Nehalem 16 CORES
32 GB RAM - 4TB RAID0
Lion 7.2
I have a bunch of video files that I would like to organize via Bridge.
Works ok but video playback is a slap in the face. Looks like jerky slow motion.
I have tried altering from hardware to software rendering. No remedy.
Bridge has been around for a long while and with each release the app actually performs worse.
Menus are ultimately slow in showing up and entering a folder with 16 video files (QT ProRes),
selecting them all, has Bridge freezing for 5 minutes supposedly creating previews.
Completey unuseable for video.... in my world !
So my question is this...
Are their any plans for implementing Video Capabilities in Bridge
or is some kind of 3rd pty. plug-in available that will enable Bridge to playback what ANY other app incl. the QUicklook and Finder can Playback.
Funny thing is that this whole app has been created to BRIDGE between apps created by adobe. If Bridge was a REAL bridge I wouldn't dare cross it.

It has always seemed that Bridge has been the stepchild of Adobe since its inception and that Adobe spends precious little effort and resources on it.
Remember that Bridge was born as nothing more than Photoshop's Browser. Nothing more.
Then, in a straight marketing stunt, Adobe decided artificially to lump together a number of totally unrelated applications into artificial "suites." These are in fact totally non-related applications that were artificially bundled by fiat of bean counters and marketers. The engineering teams for the individual point applications are totally independent from each other and are not only not in in the same building but in different cities, different states and, some, in different countries. They have pathetically little communication among themselves.
The humble Photoshop Browser was renamed Bridge and jerry-rigged to serve as some sort of go-between vehicle among the applications also jerry-ringed into artificial suites. (Definition of JERRY-RIGGED: organized or constructed in a crude or improvised manner <a jerry–rigged plan>.
Don't expect too much from Bridge, and don't complain about it too loudly, or you might find yourself among others who have been told, in effect, that "Adobe doesn't charge you for Bridge." As a "free" byproduct, you get what you paid for.
In this context, just look at what has happened to the value of Adobe stock in the last five years: –28.20% (minus).
Compare that to Apple during the exact same period: +358.43%.
Wo Tai Lao Le
我太老了

How to move tags from PSE 5 windows to PSE/bridge 6 for Mac

I have all my photos in PSE 5.0 windows. I bought a mac and PSE 6.0. how do I import the photos with the tags as keywords into the new version of the software on the mac?

You can't convert from the Organizer to Bridge.
Bridge is only a browser, you don't
"import" files into it, you just browse your files wherever they are in the Finder. Anything you move in the Finder, Bridge will see it immediately, and vice-versa. Bridge doesn't create libraries or albums.
Two very different, incompatible paradigms.

Where is Organizer in PSE 9?

New MBA with LION; just downloaded PSE9 from app store
and I'll be darned if I can find the pSE 9 organizer tab; its
usually a blue tab on the upper right hand of the screen; if
the adobe-apple fight has resulted in removing organizer or bridge
from this app I'll demand my money back..

Whoops...no organizer..
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1311137371.html

Not opening in photoshop elements 12

I have an Aperture Library 3.5.1 and am trying to open an image to edit in Photoshop Elements [Editor] 12 -- when I click on the picture using Control and select that choice, it says it's preparing it to go to PSE and be editted = but nothing opens in PSE. I have tried several times and quit everything, repaired permissions and restarted the computer. Same thing.

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FAQ: Why is Photoshop Elements cheaper? What's different about Photoshop?

What is Photoshop CS/CC (PSCS/PSCC)?
Photoshop is a professional tool used throughout many industries as the standard for digital image manipulation and painting. It has very rich, and often complex, tools and options. As such, it comes with a professional price tag.
What is Photoshop Elements (PSE)?
Photosohp Elements is a consumer product. It's made for users who don't need as many features and complex options. It has a simpler design, guided workflows, and an organizer to help you manage your files.
What are the some of the specific differences?
Here is a list of some of the major differences between Photoshop Elements and Photoshop:
Adobe Camera Raw differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements
Photoshop Elements comes with a database driven Digital Asset Management application called Elements Organizer. Photoshop comes with Bridge, a file navigation system that operates much like Windows Explorer or Macintosh Finder. While there are several functions that both Organizer and Bridge use, they are fundamentally different applications and serve different purposes.
Photoshop Elements does not support the following color modes: Duotone, CMYK, Lab, Multichannel
There is very little 16-bit support in Photshop Elements. You cannot create or convert an image to 16-bit, only open images that are already 16-bit. While working with a 16-bit image you cannot work with layers. The following tools do not work: Magic Wand, Selection Brush, the family of Type tools, Recompose, Cookie Cutter, Straighten, the brush based tools (Paint Brush, Eraser, Dodge, Blur, etc), or the shape based tools (Rectangle, Ellipse, Custom Shape, etc). Many filters do not work, mainly those featured in the Filter Gallery.
Photoshop Elements does not fully support Smart Objects. While you can open files that already have Smart Object layers, you cannot create Smart Objects nor open the files embedded as Smart Objects.
Photoshop Elements does not have a Channels panel. Nor does it have the Channel Mixer Adjustment/Enhancement.
Photoshop Elements cannot merge multiple/bracketed photo exposures into an HDR image. There is no support for 32-bit images. However, Photoshop Elements does offer Photomerge Exposure as a similar function.
Photoshop Elements does not use the same range of Content-Aware functions. While the Spot Healing Brush includes the Content-Aware option in both applications, Photoshop Elements does not have Conent-Aware as an option in the Edit > Fill Layer command (known simply as Edit > Fill in Photoshop). However, Photoshop Elements does use a Content-Aware Fill option when creating a Photomerge Panorama, this is not an option in Photoshop. Photoshop CS6 introduced the Content-Aware Extend and Move tools, which are not available in Photoshop Elements.
Photoshop Elements has fewer vector based tools. The Pen family of tools are not available. The Shape tools do create a vector shape layer, but the vector points cannot be edited individually. There is no Paths panel.
The licence from a boxed purchase of Photoshop Elements is multi-platform (as of version 9). This means you can install on either Windows or Macintosh or both without having to purchase a separate version. This was not true with Photoshop. However, with Creative Cloud we no longer sell boxed products and all licenses are multi-platform.
Photoshop Elements does not have the Subtract or Divide blending modes that were introduced in Photoshop CS5.
Photoshop and Photoshop Elements can both Transform selected pixels in the following ways: Scale, Rotate, Skew, Distort, and Perspective. Photoshop Elements does not have the Warp Transform option.
The Photoshop Elements Color Picker does not include the following options available in Photoshop's Color Picker: the Not a web-safe color alert icon, the Add to Swatches and Color Libraries buttons, and the Lab and CMYK models.
Photoshop Extended CS6 has the following panels that Photoshop Elements 11 does not: 3D*, Brush, Brush Presets, Channels, Character, Character Styles, Clone Source, Color, Layer Comps, Measurement Log*, Notes, Paragraph, Paragraph Styles, Paths, Properties, Styles, Timeline, and Tool Presets.
Photoshop Elements does not support Extensions such as Mini Bridge and Kuler.
*In some release versions of Photoshop, there Standard and Extended variants. Marked features are only available in Photoshop Extended, where applicable.
[EDITORS NOTE: This is a work in progress, this list is not yet comprehensive]

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The third crash cause happens more frequently, cause unknown, but it looks very, very similar to the Extensis Alert override bug.
So, try disabling the ExtensisFontManagement plugin, and I suspect your Photoshop CS4 experience will be a lot happier.

Open With iPhoto

Sometimes iPhoto is a simple to use program that does all I need --- but it can't organize like Bridge can, so I would like to use Bridge and then an "Open With iPhoto" command. I can add iPhoto to the applications in Preferences|File Type Associations, and Bridge then starts the iPhoto app after I double click an image -- but then I receive a message that "the file cannot be imported. It is in the iPhoto library." (Of course it is.)
Now, before ranting that this forum is for professionals and it's an Apple problem -- let me suggest that Apple made sure iPhoto had the ability to open an image for editing in Photoshop.
So, can somebody help me figure out how to make these two very good programs work together?

I should mention, you can right click on an image through finder, select 'Get info' scroll down till you see 'Open With:' here you can default iPhoto, then click 'change all' and continue... you can also just use iPhoto in select images by not clicking on 'Change all', the change will only apply to that image
This way you get iPhoto on the list as 'defualt' but still have all the others available as before...
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