Organizing photos for a search outside of iPhoto

I have a few hundred family photo prints that I want to scan and restore, with the idea of putting them on a DVD and giving them to siblings so they can print copies as they wish.
I need to find a way to make them searchable by date and/or keyword.
I need the search tool to be cross-platform, PCs and Macs.
I’d like it if the recipients didn’t have to buy a program to do this.
Any thoughts? Any on-line resources? Any info at all would be helpful. I don’t want tot get to the 500th scan and realize that I’m doing it wrong!
Thanks.
BC

While tags (called Keywords in Lightroom) seem to be a good fit for your needs to find photos by manufacturer/component, there are other ways to accomplish this.
Simple folder based organization would also work; if you set up folders for manufacturer, and then subfolders by component, you've got your organization. Of course, this assumes your organizational needs are never more complex than manufacturer/component.
Lightroom is not a multi-user application. As far as I know, it cannot allow several users to access the database at the same time. A product called Phase One Media Pro (for example, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Phase+One+Media+Pro&N=0) allows multiple users to access the database simultaneously. A folder-based organization scheme also allows multiple users to have simultaneous access to your photos.

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    zchamu
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    TD

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    Hi,
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    2. When I import images, iPhoto copies them to the iPhoto library folder. Within it, every new set of images are stored in a new folder (named roll 9, roll 10 etc). I dont like the way it organizes them. Can I organize all the snaps in the iPhoto Library myself and then add import them to iPhoto?
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    That's from: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61262
    Regards
    TD

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    Something went wrong. Now for a useful answer...
    Before anyone can help, they need information to work with. Basic stuff:
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    - What version of the Operating System.
    - Details. What were you doing when the problem arose?
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