Original iPhone w/2.0: won't connect to mail servers

I updated my original iPhone to the 2.0 firmware (after some trouble), but now retrieving mail refuses to function.
I use IMAP over SSL, which fails with a "The connection to the server xxx failed." message. I also have tried my GMail and Yahoo accounts... nothing works. Sometimes the 'wait' icon on the top just stays on a long time, sometimes it comes back with an error very quickly.
With a packet viewer, I can see my iPhone sending packets to my mail server and getting response packets, but it just won't work.
I'd suspect bad settings somehow, but then the GMail and Yahoo stuff should be working if it's just a settings issue.
The web browser and App Store work. it's not a network thing.
Any ideas?

Okay, today for no apparent reason both GMail and Yahoo have started working. My local IMAP is not.
I noticed on the earlier 1.1.4 firmware I had to set up my IMAP server for SSL2... could the new one use SSL3?
Also, my IMAP server certificate is self-signed. The old firmware asked once if it was okay, then allowed it from then on. Does anyone have a IMAP server with a self-signed certificate working with the 2.0 firmware?

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