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After a pretty bad crash (whole computer hung), forced restart, a lot of applications have lost their preferences and/or other settings files. For example Mail behaved like on its first run, asking me if I wanted to learn about new features, inbox was empty, but fortunately I could restore com.apple.mail.plist and all was fine.
iPhoto was a little bit more difficult though. First it presented me with an entirely empty library, no folders, nothing, just as if I had started iPhoto on a new computer for the first time. I quit iPhoto and restored "com.apple.iphoto.plist", "AlbumData.xml" and "Library6.iPhoto" from a backup. Then I ran iPhoto again... hurray, everything was the way it used to be... last week. But the photos I had imported since then (about 500) were nowhere to be seen.
Then I learned about iPhoto's feature for recovering orphaned photos. I launched with a bunch of modifier keys pressed, got the dialog, and rebuilt everything (thumbs, database, look for orphaned photos,...). Result: the orphaned photos were still missing. I suspect iPhoto will only find orphaned photos in folders (film rolls) it already knows about, not entire orphaned film rolls.
I located the photos in the FInder ("Filmrol 201" through "Filmrol 230") and tried copying them to the iPhoto window, hoping they would be added in. Nope, iPhoto actually complains it cannot add them to the library because... the files are located inside the library folder?!
I tried screwing with the "AlbumData.xml" file to add entries about the missing rolls, but that did not seem to help, and the entried were simply removed on the next run of iPhoto.
The only possibility seems to be moving the photos to a different location, then importing them into iPhoto from there (which actually makes a new copy of every file). Or maybe I will just import one photo to create a new film roll, then move all the other photos into that film roll folder, then let iPhoto look for orphaned photos.
Any other ideas? What would be the best, cleanest and safest way of making these orphans re-appear?
Also, does anyone know what exactly caused the preferences and other files to be corrupted like that in the first place? Just about any app that was open at the time of the crash, has lost its preferences and sometimes other files completely. I've heard of the same problem happening to other people too. It would be really nice if apps like Mail and iPhoto would keep backups of critical files. I am using FileVault, by the way.
Thanks,
Michel Colman
(pretty seasoned Mac user and programmer, so don't feel afraid to send difficult details and procedures)
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Michel
Or can iPhoto "know about" a picture but not display it in the library? That doesn't seem to make sense.
It's for when something has gone wrong, but the first condition is that the pic must have been imported.
In your situation, following the restoring to the earlier db file, these pics were not imported, iPhoto did not know about them, they were not orphans.
iPhoto NEVER looks for photos anywhere. It simply reads it's database. If the file isn't in the database, then , as far as iPhoto is concerned, the file doesn't exist. The ONLY way iPhoto can be introduced to iPhoto is by importing it. Simply having files in folders won't work. Period.
At the very least, the description of the checkbox is misleading.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html
As for not importing pics that are in the iPhoto Library folder being a "sensible precaution", well, if these are photos that are not currently included in iPhoto's database, I think it should import them (by updating its library file, obviously not by making new duplicates of the files). But I guess I'm just being too logical now
See the link above.
However, if you read this forum you'll see that when issues arise the inexperienced user will try to re-import the iPhoto Library Folder to iPhoto, on the basis that the pics are "lost". If iPhoto did allow this you'd get libraries populated with thumbnails treated as full sized pics, plus, multiple copies of the fullsized pics on a rather common basis. Personally, I think that's sensible.
Regards
TD

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