OS 9 and Airports

I am trying to connect my iBook running OS 9.1 to internet through my Airport Express and Airport Extreme (from my satellite modem).
All works fine if I use an Ethernet cable and plug the iBook into the back of the Airport Extreme router, but if I plug, the iBook, instead into an Airport Express, the IP address the iBook receives is much different and internet will no longer work.
Any ideas?

Bruce,
Why the AE and the Base Station ? Or does the iBook not have an AirPort card, and you think using the AE will give it "wireless" access to the AEBS ?
Sticky wicket if that's what you want to achieve. Basically, the AE operates in three completely different modes, and right now it sounds like you've got the AE operating as it's own wireless network, which is why you get no Internet access.
Best advice is to download the manuals for the AE and AirPort networks from Apple, READ them, and re-configure the AE using the detailed examples in the back of the appropriate "Designing" manual.
One good manual is:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/AirPortExpress_Setup_Guidev4.2.pdf
and these three:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPort_Networksv4.2.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPortNetworks.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPort_Extreme_Networksv3.4.pdf
But you can find them all here:
http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/airport/
I cannot stress how good the Designing manuals are, especially the examples.

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