OS 9 won't start under Tiger

Hi,
My Classic environment will no longer start under Tiger, although I can boot from it independently. I suspect my recent maintenance activities may be to blame. I have three internal drives, all with Tiger and one also with OS 9.2. Recently the boot disc showed signs of failing: I caught it in time, imaged the disc and replaced it. After a bit of fiddling with the remade disc I could start from it. Unfortunately I can't recall whether OS9 has ever worked since, but I think it has. I don't use it often.
I have tried booting under Tiger with extensions off and also moving and replacing the Finder so that it is 'blessed', both without success. I thought about reinstalling but I get a message saying I can't install over a newer OS.
All help gratefully received!
Andy
G4 Digital Audio 733MHz Mac OS X (10.4.9) ATA 120GB, ATA 80GB, SCSI 17GB, Airport

Problem solved: I reinstalled the printer drivers as they had also been affected by my maintenance and Classic now fires up perfectly. I can't begin to imagine why this should have had any effect, but there we are

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Edited by: bootbk on Mar 26, 2010 7:26 AM

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3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
Next, Repair Permissions.

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It seems that when the airdisk is mounted under my Tiger machine using AEBSn firmware 7.2.1, it does not spin down. However, when I unmount it, it eventually spins down. On my Leopard machine, even with it still mounted, it eventually spins down.
Any ideas? Thanks.

Just confirmed again. My leopard macbook with the airdisk mounted will still allow it to spin down. however, with my tiger machine mounting the airdisk, it NEVER spins down, even when i'm away from the computer, unless i unmount it in tiger.
is this a known issue in 7.2.1 when drives are mounted under tiger? if so, i'll try 7.1.1 again. thanks.

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