OS X 10.5 Server - Mailing lists

I'm trying to get mailing lists on OS X 10.5 server to work, but when I place the check mark in the "enable server group mailing lists" in server admin it does not allow me to select the server name from "Enable the following servers for this group on" xxx in the workgroup manager. What would be the best way to trouble shoot this issue?
I've checked the console log and the mail logs and do not see any errors when enabling the server group mailing lists.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dear BDAqua, YOU ARE A DUDE! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! I was expecting this to take ages etc etc...
It worked just like you said - took a reboot to put the HD image back on the Desktop, but what's a reboot or two between friends. I am soo releived. Thank you so much!
I don't know if you'll remember, but you helped me previously with trying to install this .....thing of a server....
Well now it's installed I now find out it can do more damage running than just being awkward and refusing.
To be honest, I'm so fed up with it the only thing stopping me upgrading to a new set up is the cost of the extra 3rd party software/app upgrades to work on 10.8... (I run 10.8 on my wife's macmini and it appears quite good...)
I also know that somehow I'm going to have to find info to set this up without any more scares like this. I haven't been able to connect the client (my other 2) macs yet - perhaps I don't know enough yet? The original manual while saying quite a lot, doesn't really explain much very well...
Do you know anywhere I could learn to set this up? Maybe websites, youtube channels or the such like?
Many, many thanks again. I owe you one. I'd like to buy you a drink, but I don't think it would last across the atlantic...(I'm in Wales, in the UK), and I think you're in the USA somewhere?
Anyway, thanks for saving my bacon, and If you have any other info regarding setting up 10.5 server please drop us a line when you have a moment, otherwise, Thank you and Godbless.

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