OS X on 233 tray loading Bondi Blue

Do I need to make a full install of OS 9.2 or can I get away with just a Clean install?
Also, I just put in a 10G Hard Drive and partitioned it (2x5G). Should I put all both OS on the same partition?
Thanks.

you can put both on the same partition no problem. Won't make much of a difference.
A clean install pretty much is a full install. its about as full as you can get since it creates an entirely new system folder. Either choice on a blank hard drive will yield essentially the same thing I believe.

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OS 10.2.8 on 233MHz tray loading Bondi Blue

I have installed OS10.2.8 on a 233MHz tray loading Bondi Blue and I am wondering if there are things I can do to optimize it. I have a 10GB HD and 256MB of RAM (maximum for this machine I read). Anything else I can do?
Thanks.

Maximum RAM for your machine is 512 with a 256MB module in each of the two slots. The bottom slot requires a low profile module. See here for what I mean...
http://www.datamem.com/partsthat_fit_list.asp_Q_M_E_iMac+233_A_MF_E_Apple_A_C_E
(standard disclaimer, not affiliated with the above supplier but have ordered RAM from them for my old tray loading iMac with very good customer service, so just your standard happy customer)
Although 512MB or RAM would certainly be an improvement over your current 256MB, 256 is not bad and if I had to choose one thing to update on your machine, I would be focusing on the hard drive first. 10GB is nothing. OS X will need a decent amount of free drive space for cache files, temp files, and general scratch disk area for doing stuff behind the scenes. While it probably doesn't need a lot, 10GB is small enough that your stuff may quickly fill it up, especially if you use iTunes and load in a lot of your CDs, and you may find your system getting bogged down as you start to approach filling 80+% of your drive. Considering how dirty cheap hard drives are now. My old 333MHz machine has an 80GB drive in it and it works great (and that one is still only running OS 9.2.2).
Keep in mind these older tray loading iMacs require drives over 8GB to be partitioned with the first partition under 8GB where OS X is installed. Although if you have OS X on your 10GB drive, you probably already knew that.
Patrick

Apple imac g3 233 tray loader with problems

Hey guys ive had problems with this before and so far its giving up again its an imac g3 233 tray loader ive disconnected the vid and turned it on i get the chime and the normal stuff but when i turn it on it ummm does a bump lol id have to send u the sound it does lol but thats not the only thing if i put the vid in it works but it clicks no zapping just clicks and now its displaying a white screen with a command prompt and its running mac os 9.1 so im at a loss what to do as my younger brother uses it for word documents for school work any help would be greatfull

Hey guys ive had problems with this before and so far its giving up again its an imac g3 233 tray loader ive disconnected the vid
What Vid? It's best to use formal English here.
and turned it on i get the chime and the normal stuff but
What's "normal stuff?"
when i turn it on it ummm does a bump lol id have to send u the sound it does lol but thats not the only thing if i put the vid in it works
So, you machine works! Why the post?
but it clicks no zapping just clicks and now its displaying a white screen with a command prompt and its running mac os 9.1 so im at a loss what to do
Mac OS 9 doesn't have a command line. Could it be booting in to firmware?
You can try the openfirmware command:
printenv
"Show all configuration variables and their current and default values. Numbers are usually shown in decimal."
http://www.firmworks.com/QuickRef.html
I'd try putting in an original Mac OS cd that came with the system. Put the cd in when the command line comes up. Power down then boot up when holding down the c key.
Robert

Apple imac G3 lime 233 tray load power fault

Hi guys i replaced the whole analogue video board today as i thought the fbt was gone only to find it didnt help so i replaced the internal fuse as that had blown before i changed the video board with the same model and same revision but the fuse has blown for a second time could it be the fuse i replaced in there wasnt strong enough to power it up? As i think it was the wrong amp fuse as they take a T6,3AH250V and i replaced it with a T1,6AH250V maybe thats why it blew any help would be greatfull or is the power board dead?

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Unable to install OS 10.3 on my tray loaded Imac 233 MHz Powerpc 750.

03Jan07
I am not able to install OS 10.3 on to my 10 GB hard drive. I get this message:
"You can not install Mac OS X on the volume. This destination is not within the first 8 GB of the hard disk".
I have reformated the drive several times and install Imac Firmware Update 1.2 . I continue to get the message.
What is the process to install Mac 10.3 onto a Tray Loaded 233 MHz Powerpc750 Imac? I got the computer with 10.3 already installed, so I know it is possible.
Thank you for your help with this matter.

04Jan07
Strider:
Thank you for the partioning advice.
I actually traded that computer with 10.3 installed for another model, a G3 tower that could not handle 10.2. Somehow the Imac had 10.3 without spliting the drive, so I assumed the drive did not need spliting.
The wireless antenna I bought for my Dad will not work for any version prior than 10.2, so I had to find a way to install the newer operating system. I hope the 256M RAM I just installed will be enought to do the job.
Thank you for your help with this. Do you know how the install 10.3 without spliting up the drive?
Regards,
Craig H. Henden

Connecting an old bondi blue 233 to an existing network

I already have a network set up with an indigo g3 imac wired with an ethernet cable which is currently running on 10.3 and an g4 ibook connected wirelessly running on 10.4.
I have recently acquired an old bondi blue 233 imac and want to connect it wirelessly as it will be located too far away from the dsl router to connect it with an ethernet cable. It's currently running on os 9.2.2 and does not have an airport card. I have heard that it is possible to link it to the network with either a usb wireless adapter, a bridge (whatever that is??!!) or possibly by using another dsl router.
I was hoping someone could explain what the difference is between each method, which one works best and whether any, or all, will be compatible with os 9. I apologise for my ignorance in advance.
Mac OS 9.2.x also running with os x 10.4 and 10.3 on the other models

Another option that no one has mentioned is using the mains power line.
There's a company called Devolo (German) and they make a collection of ethernet enabled mains plugs. One of my clients has bought a set to connect a PC in a room where the wireless will not reach and it works beautifully.
You plug one into a socket near the router, then connect it to the router with the supplied cat5 cable. Yopu then plug another into a socket near the destination computer and connect it to the computer's ethernet socket with the other cat5 cable they supply. You wait a moment or two while the 2 units synchronise and that's basically it. There's some encryption software supplied too if you want to use it.
The Register news site www.theregister.co.uk tested them out and compared them to a similar product by Zyx???? something. The Devolo ones performed better and were cheaper - but more importantly - outperformed Wireless G data-transfer speeds by a margin.
In a couple of weeks (when I've some spare cash), I'm going to get a pair and try them out for myself.
According to their website - they also do a plug with a built-in wireless access point.

Bondi Blue CRT losing contrast

The CRT of a Bondi Blue tray loading iMac is losing its contrast. Black is now gray. Is it due to old age?
Thanks.

Sold it!

Need help installing panther to my bondi blue imac g3

I have recenlty acquired a bondi blue imac g3. it has os 9.0 on it but i am trying to install osx 10.3 . i have gotten an unsued copy of 10.3 but when i insert the disks into the disc drive the are unredable by my computer. i have made sure that i have upgraded my hardware to the required levels but still have had no luck. any help here would be greatly apprecieated.

"I have recenlty acquired a bondi blue imac g3. it has os 9.0 on it but i am trying to install osx 10.3."
I have several suggestions, with the first involving a check of the iMac's firmware to be sure that the Firmware Update 1.2 has already been run on it, prior to installing OS X. It has been so long since I explored my Panther installer disk, but it may be found on it. The second suggestion I'd make would be to replace the iMac's internal 3.6-volt, ½AA lithium battery. I prefer the Saft batteries over some of the competitor's equivalents. It's 1,200 mAh is as good as you'll find, whereas some others are rated less - 1,000mAh or less. If the computer has been disconnected from electrical power for some time, the battery is likely very weak or dead. A dead battery can cause startup issues, so it's good to eliminate the potential for problems caused by leaving a bad battery in the computer. This web site has a lot of useful info for maintaining/upgrading tray-loading iMacs. The next hardware areas to address before installing Panther would be the amount of internal SDRAM installed and the hard drive's capacity. If you install a larger internal hard drive, you must partition it so that the first partition is about 7.8-7.9 GBs. This first partition that's less than 8 GBs is the required volume for an OS X installation in the tray-loading iMacs.
If the cleaning disk doesn't stop the read problems with the internal optical drive, you have to consider the possibility that it has hardware and/or electronic problems associated with age and usage. With only a USB 1.0 port on that iMac, I wouldn't recommend using an external USB optical drive, primarily because it wouldn't be bootable for the OS X installation. Additionally, the first generation USB has a slow data transfer rate (12 Mbps/sec), that ultimately limits the read speed of the drive. I'd check eBay for a pulled/used 24x CD-ROM drive.

Upgrade my Bondi Blue G3 to OS 9.?

Hi:
The kids pulled out my old Bondi Blue G3. I have reinstalled all the original discs and so it is running on 8.5 (not 8.6....I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to upgrade now to 8.6...I'll take suggestions on this issue too, unable to find what I need at apple support). But....
Anyway, some of the kiddie software needs system 9.x So I was going to buy the OS 9 discs on ebay. There is a lot there to chose from. I am not sure exactly what discs I need. Can I just buy a copy of 9.2 and that will work? Anything special I need to know? Simply want to get to the highest 9.xx as possible at least cost.
Other details on this computer: 233 MHz, and 96 Mg RAM.
Many kind thx!!
Jon

To Apple Discussions!
The following Articles should be helpful:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26165 Mac OS 8.5.1 Update Document and Software
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60335 Mac OS 8.6: Installing Mac OS 8.6
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60283 Mac OS 8.6 Update Document and Software
If you install OS 8.6 you must also install the following updates:
Font Manager Update
Drive Setup 1.7.3. Open it and use the UPDATE DISK DRIVER option. (Do NOT choose the Initialize option as that will erase your drive).
If your "Bondi Blue G3" is an iMac please see Knowledge Base Article before installing OS 9.x:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58174 iMac: When to Install Available Updates
Your iMac may be in need of a battery also.
Radio Shack's battery# is 23-026. It is a 3.6V Lithum 850mAh 1/2-AA battery made for Apple computers.
Mac 3.6 Volt Battery
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86181 Macintosh Family: Batteries and Part Numbers.
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Also, I would purchase as much RAM as you can afford. OS 9.x uses up a lot of memory. In the meantime I would set Virtual Memory to 97mb.
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Where ever you purchase OS 9.x from make sure you purchase a univeral full installer CD. Ask the vendors the color of the CD lable. All universal full install CDs are white w/an orange/golden 9.x on it.
You can purchase a OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1 universal installer CD & then go to Apple's download site & download the OS 9.2.2 update. However, personally, I would just stay with OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1. You really do not need OS 9.2.2 which is really a cosmetic OS for OS X.
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Prior to doing any of the above I would run a 3rd party utility (DiskWarrior, Techtool Pro or Norton Utilities v5.03) to make sure the system is in tip top shape & then run the utility again after all the installations plus rebuild your desktop.
If you do not have any of the above mentioned utilities, then boot from your system install cd (the one that originally came w/your comp) while holding down the c key & run Disk First Aid from the Utilities folder. Have DFA repair any errors it finds.

Upgrade a crt bondi blue

just need to know if it is feasible to upgrade a bondi blue 233 mhz from 9.1 to jaguar for my 9 yr old to hook up with school network and run educational software.

Hello,
It will work just fine if you update the necessary areas first.
The most important, is that you need to get firmware update 1.2 installed:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60384
You have to install that prior to installing any version of OS X. Failure to do so, could result in a system that is totally unusable.
On the page at:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58174
You'll also find updates for the CD-ROM drive and your modem that you should go ahead and update before upgrading.
They are not critical updates. But, they will make things better, and you won't be able to install those updates from OS X.
As for Jaguar, that will run just fine.
Your machine will actually run any version of OS X all the way up to 10.3.9.
You do need to make sure you upgrade the memory and hard drive to meet the minimum requirements of the version of OS X that you choose.
128 MB is fine for OS 10.0 through 10.2.8. But, 256 MB or more would be recommended.
For OS 10.3.x, 256 MB would be minimum.
And, you just need to make sure the hard drive is large enough to hold everything and still have enough room to work.
I hope this helps.

Upgrading my Bondi Blue iMac from 10.1.5 to 10.2

Hello all,
I have a Rev A Bondi Blue iMac with the following upgrades:
512 mb RAM
333 MHz processor
120 gb HDD (partitioned, the first partition a little less than 8 gb)
Firmware, OSX 10.1.5, and related software are up to date
I've been using it with 10.1.5 for a while now and it works quite well. I've decided to install one of my licenses of Office 2004, so I need to upgrade to 10.2. I bought the upgrade CDs, but have trouble getting them to load. After inserting 10.2 disk 1, I allow it to restart the computer, where I am faced with a gray screen with the Apple in the center. After a few minutes, I am given the following error:
"The installer has quit due to an unexpected error exit code 138"
Anyone know what I can do to resolve this issue and install 10.2? What exactly is "exit code 138"?
Thank you.
Message was edited by: yugobrandon

Immediately after the computer reads:
"The installer has quit due to an unexpected error exit code 138"
It says:
"Please Restart your computer"
and then:
"SAM Multimedia READ or WRITE failed, ASC=0x11, ASCQ=0x00
SAM Multimedia READ or WRITE failed, ASC=0x11, ASCQ=0x00
SAM Multimedia READ or WRITE failed, ASC=0x11, ASCQ=0x00
SAM Multimedia READ or WRITE failed, ASC=0x11, ASCQ=0x00
SAM Multimedia READ or WRITE failed, ASC=0x11, ASCQ=0x00
disk1s1s9: I/O Error"
Thanks for your help!

Upgrade Tray Loading From 8.5 To 9.2.2

One of my friends has an imac from a while ago...it is a tray loading one...very interesting. I have never seen a tray loading up close before...they have laptop style CD ROMs!!!! =] =]
I turned it on and it has Mac OS 8.5 on it.
How do I upgrade to 9.2.2??????
I have the install cd and I could install it like that...
I also am thinking about taking the hard drive out, putting it in external enclosure, and copying and pasting 9.2.2 onto the hard drive and putting the hard drive back.
How do I open a tray loading imac?????????

How do I upgrade to 9.2.2??????
I have the install cd and I could install it like that...
Boot from the cd to install.
Power on machine. Press button in from of cd drive. Place cd in drive. Power off machine.
You hold down the c key then power on your machine. Should boot up.
Whatever version of 9.x you have can be upgraded to 9.2.2 by downloading & installing updates from apple.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387?viewlocale=en_US
I also am thinking about taking the hard drive out, putting it in external enclosure, and copying and pasting 9.2.2 onto the hard drive and putting the hard drive back.
Why all the complexity?
You will need to 'bless' os.
How do I open a tray loading imac?????????
You should verify that you have the latest firmware, before installing new software. See the system profiler for details. What firmware do you need?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117
You may run Mac OS 10.3 on this machine. Mac OS X takes about 4gig. You can trim it down to 3gig with a custom install.
This will require a minimum of 128meg of ram. More is better. I'd suggest 256. You may put 512meg of ram in this machine. There are two memory slots. One must be Low Profile memory. Be sure you can return your memory cards. iMac memory cards are finicky.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/iMac-G3-G4/
All the tray loading iMac g3's, models a-d, are constructed the same.
While this article deals with adding memory, you should see the pram battery on the logic board when you get to step 17.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43012
You should skip steps 17 to 20. Look for the pram battery instead.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43013
Here is a good disassembly page:
http://www.macopz.com/columns/imacrepair/disassembly.html
The second article in this series has information on replacing the battery:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2584291
How To Upgrade Your iMac
http://www.djonmac.com/
The tray loading iMac requires the boot partition to be within 8gig. Since there are hidden partitions before the first visible partition, people recommend that you make the first visible partition 7.5 gig to 7.9gig. The machines support upto a 128gig Parallel ATA drive.
You should be able to use Unix symbolic links to 'move' some directory like /Users to the second visible partition.
Robert
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Imac g3 333mhz tray loader & os 9 install on new hard drive?

puting new (used) 20gb hardive in imac g3, 333mhz tray loader (rev d i think), because the imac came (Ebay) with os 8.6 password protected by At Ease ("a notoriously sticky program to get rid of," so i've heard). the questions are: 1) once i get the hd with nothing on it into the imac; can i use an os 9.whatever install cd to FORMAT AND PARTITION the new drive? and 2) if i can, must this cd be a "retail" cd, or can i purchase one of those gray install cds that say imac on the disk? and finally 3)if all goes well and after updating firmware (is there a problem here?) i'm going to install 10.3.

Hi, iMacQ.
1) Yes.
2) Yes, you'll need either a retail CD or the model-specific CD that was shipped with your exact iMac model. With so many different iMac models, it would be extremely hard to determine which model-specific (gray) CD was the right one to buy, and I can't recommend trying to do so.
3) A retail OS 9 CD will contain the firmware updater you need. A model-specific (gray) CD will contain only the firmware updater needed by the model it was designed for, and that may not be yours.
The firmware updater you may need is also available here, but quite apart from the firmware issue, a gray CD may lack OS components that your iMac needs, and include others that it can't use.
Summary: buy only a retail CD.

Can I use a 40GB Hard Drive in my iMac G3 (Tray-Loader)?

Can I use a 40GB Hard Drive in my iMac G3 (Tray-Loader)? Any help gladly appreciated!
Thanks,
Sean Butler

As pointed out, for OS X you need a small <8GB first partition with the tray loading models. If you never plan to run OS X and will only run OS9, then you can format the entire drive as one parition if you like. But to be safe, if you are not sure, make parition one <8GB and partition two the balance of the drive space.
As to your specific question, I have a 60GB drive in my 333MHz Grape Tray loader and it works fine, so yes you can put a 40 in there no problem.
Patrick

I have a 1998 bondi blue iMac and I would like to put windows on it help

So about 7 years ago my school was selling all their 1998 bondi blue iMacs for 50 dollars each. We used it for a tiny bit and then we got a better computer. Anyway I don't have enough money to get a laptop and I just got a desk so I set it up in my room as my computer. It has Mac OS so it is pretty good in that sense but it has no hardware like inbuilt wifi just the option. Anyway I want it to be a bit better so I would like to run windows 7 and do some things to speed it up. Is there any way I can keep the programmes I already has on the mac because I already had word and things on the mac so I would like to bring them across. So can you please tell me how to put windows on and speed it up. Also now the fan makes a funny noise, I put the vacuum up to the vent to try and see if that fixed it but it still makes that noise and I am worried of a fire hazard, anybody have any ideas?
Thank you so much to who answers this

I recall that this model did NOT have a fan, so you may be hearing the precursor to its hard drive dying...
I purchased the SONY Supressa USB 1.0 CD-R external burner to use with this Mac.
It burned at 2X, but many times I burned at 1X to reduce the number of "coasters" that it produced!
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