OS X Tiger Install Help

I currently am running OS 9 on a PowerPC G4. It has 400 MHz, 19 GB, and 512 memory. I am trying to install OS X Tiger. The computer sees the disc when I insert it. When I click on the "restart" button that it shows me an error occurs and says it can not start up from the installation disc. I've tried restarting the computer and holding the c button down and that didn't work. I've tried disconnecting from all networks. I've tried to go in and do it from the start up disk, but the installation disc is grayed out and won't allow me to highlight it. Is there anything else that I could try. I have no idea what to do now.

First, we need to know if the computer actually did the firmware update, or gave you any sort of message when you tried to install it? Then, how much space is free on the 19 Gb drive, and what is the exact model of Mac you have (it should be on a sticker on the back of the case, and look something like this: M6921, M7232, M7824, M7825, M7827, M5183. Whatever the number, we need to know that.
Tiger is huge in the amount of space it takes for even a basic installation; this is why I suspect the disk size is what's holding you back. Not only must you have enough space to install Tiger and keep the OS 9 portion, but you also need lots of space for virtual memory caching and swapping, not to mentionn the OS X applications you want to install.
If you can get the information for the first 3 items, then we'll have more to go on, but I'm pretty confident at this point it's the hard drive space.
Mulder

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