OSX 10.5.6 Update -- Strange

Strange problem with this MacBook pro with every update I've done....
Works absolutely great with speed and stability improvements...
W000000000000T. Love my MBP. Can we get some apple love in the house?

On this forum you see people bashed for not repairing the disc, fixing permissions, having a clone etc etc. They cop soooo much from the upper level users and are being told that all problems are their fault.
Sadly that is sometimes the case.
Now, I am going to raise a question...
Considering that ALL the maintenance must be done before an upgrade, and the combo should be used, why does an automatic update not take all that into consideration?
Each system is different?
Let me enlarge. Things like System Preferences repairs could be done, of course, but that would add time and complexity. However, there are a number of other considerations, IMO. First, any system will generate its own problems during a period of use and therefore a system should be maintained by the owner. Forced shutdowns, incomplete downloads, crashed applications (does happen) all add to a less than perfect situation. I do not think we can presume that any OS is designed to be self-repairing, so over a period of time, there is likely to be a deterioration.
That is probably one of the reasons that Apple provides Disk Utility and it is recommended that this is run in the event of any problems; as is the permissions repair. One also finds that Apple warns in the rubric of Disk Utility, that if it is unable to fix a problem, a stronger utility may be needed. Stuff happens and regular maintenance is one of the keys to keeping it all ship shape (and Bristol fashion, to complete the saying).
There is also the question of periodic maintenance that is carried out when the machine is left on and running 24/7. I don't do that. Nor do many. So that has to be covered in another way: several utilities do this. I use Macaroni on one computer and run periodic in Terminal on another. Again, failure to run these tasks may not be a disaster but won't help in the general run.
After all, many people switch to MAC because "it works right out of the box", it's extremely user friendly and all that spiel.
Which it is: but some users do start off on the wrong foot. I have helped a number who have some really weird installations and setups.
Then, they see a box saying: new updates are available, happily they hit the YES PLEASE button, and if anything goes wrong they are being put down as "illiterate" users...
Agree
Should all users be expected to read through articles on the KB after they switched to avoid all that mucking about?
No. Some phone me late night after it has gone wrong. And I am no expert.
Shouldn't the Automatic Update run ALL the maintenance tasks automatically before updating the OS? I think so.
What do you think?
Food for thought, indeed. But as I suggest above: too many variables for a vanilla upgrade method that fixes and repairs all. Imagine if a disk did have a problem and the standard maintenance failed to install, or it crashed because of the problem? Surely more angst that way.
You certainly make some interesting points: food for thought.

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