OSX 10.5.8 Gimp & X11

I am having a problem getting both X11 and Gimp to Install and run. I have found solutions that
apply to OSX 10.5.2 but not 10.5.8. Would appreciate any suggestions as to solutions, as well ***
what version of gimp will work with what version of X11 on this machine.
Thanks in advance for your help
gfv

I am an XPlane nut. I am trying to convert older aircraft paint files, primarily bmp and png to tne
latest version of XPlane 9.64. Photoshop would be ideal, google sketch up, would do the job but I cannot get it to work as I am on a PPC. I have used Gimp in the past with some success.
Open source is the choice because I cannot afford photoshop. fixed income senior lol. Seashore is
a good alternative to Gimp but has limited function. This is only part of the problem. X11 is the other part.
X11 in it's current for does not launch. From OSX install disc OSX 10.5.0. On another part of the forum it was noted that X11 has to be updated via an Apple Combo 10.5.2 update. I have not done this yet.
I have bothe Gimp 2.47 dmg and 2.6.11 dmg. Both are PPC versions both will install, but not launch.
The problem is with X11
Before I downloadand install the combo update, I wanted to know if anyone had any suggestions. Hence my posting.
G

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