OSX or Time Capsule? file size differences

So i have my music library on my 500GB time capsule.
i also have it backed up to two different 1TB harddrives (they all report the same amount of files and size)
each 1TB states there are 159.23GB space used by the Music folder with 184 Folders
the 500GB time capsule states: 93.68GB of space used with the same amount of folders.
I did an individual file size check of every folder on each drive using the optcmdI and they all reported the same size.
is there anyway to figure out why this stating differing file sizes?
Time Capsule
1TB drive

I agree that it doesn't make sense, especially that extreme of a difference.
I might be that not all of the data was transferred to the drive with the smaller sized music collection. And just because there are the same amount of folders on each drive does not mean there are the same amount of actual music files in each of those folders.
When copying data, any folders are copied first, then the files within those folders are copied. If your transfer failed for any reason (with or without your knowledge) it was most likely after the folders had been copied but before all the files within those folders had been copied.
I hope that makes sense.
- Mike

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That big a difference is odd, indeed.
The preference file may be corrupted (although that seems unlikely on both Macs). Try a "full reset" of Time Machine, per #A4 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of the +Time Machine+ forum).
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Whenever I copy a file to the time capsule (either via finder by moving it there, or via terminal with cp) the file permissions of the file end up with -rwxrwxrwx, independently whether the file was an executable, or whether it only had reading permissions for all or group. Running chmod on the Time Capsule files has no effect.
This is really silly and makes the Airport Disk sharing useless. This way I will never share files with my friends over the Airport disk because the files loose their property and all files are executables at the end.
Is there a way to mount or configure the Time Capsule so that it conserves the file permissions?
I am aware that time capsule cannot handle different users, but at least it should conserve the file permissions. I imagine it could be like a scp or ftp of files to another server. My files on the other server will not have my user name, but at least they conserve the file permissions. A -rw-r-r- file will still be a -rw-r-r- file even if I copy it 10 times from one server to another.
I would lik to encourage Apple to take this problem seriously and provide an update for this issue. So many other Apple products are just so well integrated in a networking environment, even if it is a heterogeneous one, but not Time Capsule with this flaw.
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Agree, this is a serious flaw, that makes the device very dangerous to use as a central server for shared files, for example, the family's photograph collection. Since there appears to be no way to write protect anything, how can I ensure the files don't get modified or deleted?
Here's a nasty case I am seeing:
We unload a digital camera onto the TC's disk, then someone goes to their iPhoto app, and adds these files to their iPhoto library. Then they do something simple, like rotate the photos, and voila! The master file on the TC has now been modified! Horrible.

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You should be able to change the permissions on the files.. this is yet another bungle by Mavericks I suspect.
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH13799
Sometimes it is because you Migrated wrongly.
http://pondini.org/TM/E10.html
It is not up to Mavericks because sadly the guy who wrote all this great info died recently.

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I am sure that there exists numerous questions similar to mine, however, I would like to be sure. I have a PC, macbook pro, and air port time capsule.
What I want to do:
1) I will move the contents of Time machine in an external HDD to new time capsule
2) I will backup my macbook pro via time machine using time capsule (this is ok)
3) I would like to store my PC data to the time capsule
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a) I would like to share either mac file or PC file in Time capsule to the other users, may use mac or PC
b) Finally I would like to connect it from outside of office (I am in a university and we do not have a static IP)
I would like to learn that is it possible to do all of them with new time capsule. Indeed for the request 2, it is not necessary to back up PC data regularly, I can move data manually, I mean I do not want to use backup program for it.
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I would like to ask you, if I connect an external HDD to USB connection of time capsule, then, is it possible to back up PC data to external HDD using time capsule as a router. I mean I looking for possible solutions to achieve :
2) I will backup my macbook pro via time machine using time capsule (this is ok)
3) I would like to store my PC data to the time capsule
That is what Pondini recommends.. using a USB drive to the TC works fine and is treated separately to the internal disk.. but is slow.. very slow..
PC can backup to the TC.. but it cannot use MSBackup if you have home versions.. because MS decided home versions should not need network backups.. anyway MSbackup is the most horrible program.. so just buy or download a suitable backup software.. anything.. anything at all has to be better than MSbackup.
Your point 3. Is this separate to backup.. ie do you want a backup and store your data on the TC.. you can do both.. But do not rely on the TC for your backups if that is the only place you have those files.. and you cannot backup TC files to TC... well not easily and it will be excruciatingly slow.
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. Now, if I connect to an external HDD to USB port of time capsule and use time capsule as a router, is it possible to access the contents of HDD from MAC and PC,
And then, by using Icloud, can I access External HDD connected to USB port of time capsule.
Last question. How time capsule is used for PC
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1. Drive compatibility is not straight forward.
2. The drive can spin down and never spin up again without a restart.
3. You sometimes need to use a powered hub even with powered drive. The USB port is slow and underpowered.
4. The drive must be formatted on the Mac.. TC only has FAT32 or HFS+ formats.. and the FAT32 is poor. The fact that you use HFS+ is not an issue but the PC may still have issues with large files. It might still think the drive is FAT32 when it isn't.
BTMM with iCloud will work with both internal and USB drives plugged into the TC. But only from Mac. PC cannot access anything.
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I do not understand the point of the question.. all your questions are about using the TC with PC..
The TC is a dumb as a board hard disk inside a router.. nothing more.. you use it same as any router with a lousy USB drive plugged in.. slowly.. without brains.. what more did you want??

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Message was edited by: openarchitecture

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mikkec wrote:
I recently got a brand new Time Capsule 1 TB. I have not copied any data to the internal (Airport) disk drive yet since I have been previously using a separate USB disk drive for Time machine backups and for storing other data. When I will have time I will just copy the data from the external USB drive to the Time capsule and use the Time capsule disk also for Time machine backups
this will not work. TM treats backups to locally attached drives differently to those made to networked drives. click here for information.
(I will delete the previous Time machine backups from the USB drive), while the USB drive will remain connected to the Time capsule for extended storage.
I would like to secure my shared disk with accounts (Airport Utility ->Disks -> File Sharing -> Secure Shared Disks -> With Accounts); currently I have "With a disk password" option selected. Somewhere on the internet I've read that when I enable this feature a new directory is created for each of the user account added to the Time capsule for disk access and that the existing data is removed from the Time capsule. Also, a new folder is created in Time capsule with a name of the disk which can be used as a shared folder for all users with accounts on Time capsule.
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1. What happens to the other external USB drive connected to Time machine when I enable the user account secutiry feature? Is the data deleted? Are user account also set for this drive?
2. How to delete one user's data from the Time capsule after enabling user accounts access? If I delete his/her account on Time capsule, is his/her data also deleted from disk or just stays there?
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Right now I am using a MacMini with an external HD as a file server. I'm thinking g of using the new AirPort Extreme with 3T time capsule to do the same tho g (while also extended my wifi reach).
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